Sep 4, 2026 · 26 min · 18 segments
What if the discomfort you’re trying to avoid is actually the thing that could make you stronger? In this episode, I break down the psychology of resilience and show you how to stop treating fear as a…
Rob DialHost
So there's a researcher named Mark Seery at the University of Buffalo, and he studied thousands of people over many years, tracking every hard thing that ever happened to them in their lives: death, illnesses, divorces, job losses, financial disasters, everything hard that goes through someone's life.
And when he looked at how those people were doing in their mental health and their overall life satisfaction and how they handled stress when it came up, there's something that you would expect, right? Like, the more hardship that somebody went through, the worse outcomes that sometimes happened in their life.
The people who had been through a lot of adversity, like more than normal out of the thousands of people that he studied, well, some of them were struggling a little bit more, and some of them were not, and that part can kinda make sense.
But the real interesting part about it is that the people who had been through no struggle in the time that he was actually researching them, like no hardship, were also struggling as well.
So they, they had no hardship in their life, and they were still struggling in life.
They reported more distress and lower satisfaction, and they were more knocked around by everyday problems than people who had actually been through real, real pain in their life.
And then as you might think, the healthiest group in the entire study were people that were kind of in the middle.
And so I want you to understand, like everyone thinks they want an easy and comfortable life.
But according to this research, that might actually be the worst thing that you could have, which is just an easy, comfortable life.
And you have to understand, our species wasn't built just to sit back and do nothing and scroll on their phone or watch TV on a couch.
We were built for millions of years on searching, seeking, hitting challenges, meeting challenges, overcoming them, and then growing and getting better for them.
And life has only become like, quote, unquote, "comfortable" and easy for humans in the past, like hundred years or so.
Don't believe me, go back and watch like any documentary on what they went through in like the 1800s, the 1700s, the 1600s.
Like, you alive right now have a better life than any Roman king ever had 1500, 2000 years ago.
And if you listen to this show, I know the last thing that you want to be is fragile.
So there's a researcher named Mark Seery at the University of Buffalo, and he studied thousands of people over many years, tracking every hard thing that ever happened to them in their lives: death, illnesses, divorces, job losses, financial disasters, everything hard that goes through someone's life.
And when he looked at how those people were doing in their mental health and their overall life satisfaction and how they handled stress when it came up, there's something that you would expect, right? Like, the more hardship that somebody went through, the worse outcomes that sometimes happened in their life.
The people who had been through a lot of adversity, like more than normal out of the thousands of people that he studied, well, some of them were struggling a little bit more, and some of them were not, and that part can kinda make sense.
But the real interesting part about it is that the people who had been through no struggle in the time that he was actually researching them, like no hardship, were also struggling as well.
So they, they had no hardship in their life, and they were still struggling in life.
They reported more distress and lower satisfaction, and they were more knocked around by everyday problems than people who had actually been through real, real pain in their life.
And then as you might think, the healthiest group in the entire study were people that were kind of in the middle.
And so I want you to understand, like everyone thinks they want an easy and comfortable life.
But according to this research, that might actually be the worst thing that you could have, which is just an easy, comfortable life.
And you have to understand, our species wasn't built just to sit back and do nothing and scroll on their phone or watch TV on a couch.
We were built for millions of years on searching, seeking, hitting challenges, meeting challenges, overcoming them, and then growing and getting better for them.
And life has only become like, quote, unquote, "comfortable" and easy for humans in the past, like hundred years or so.
Don't believe me, go back and watch like any documentary on what they went through in like the 1800s, the 1700s, the 1600s.
Like, you alive right now have a better life than any Roman king ever had 1500, 2000 years ago.
And if you listen to this show, I know the last thing that you want to be is fragile.
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