The Lowdown on the Plus-up - A Theme Park Podcast
Sep 30, 2026 · 5 min · 4 segments
Send us Fan Mail We share a quick update on our release schedule while Pete gets his new house ready, plus a few theme park history notes we can’t…
Kelly McCubbinHost
Peter OverstreetHost
First off, it's the 75th anniversary of Herb Ryman drawing the original Disneyland map.

It was the weekend that Walt took him to a hotel room and got him hyped up on coffee and stayed there all weekend with him to get him to draw the map they used to sell the bankers on the park.

Huzzah! Coming up this weekend, I am going to be going down to Garner Holt's place in Redland, California.

And if you've been listening to the show for a while, you know that that is right in my bailiwick.

I am... interested in frontierland and i'm interested in the origins of frontierland and this is going to be about the history of the rainbow caverns mine train or the mine train through nature's wonderland i'm really excited about going down and i had some frequent flyer points so i could make a quick flight from where i am in northern california to where they are in southern california A lot of cool people are going to be there.

Johnny Whitaker is going to be there, who you may remember from Family Affair or the musical version of Tom Sawyer that the Disney company did.

Also, and I'm really excited about this, he was Johnny in Sigmund and the Sea Monsters.

My wife looked at me funny when I acted like that was cool, but it is actually cool.

I'm looking forward to going down and meeting some of the Order of the Red Handkerchief at Garner Holt's

First off, it's the 75th anniversary of Herb Ryman drawing the original Disneyland map.

It was the weekend that Walt took him to a hotel room and got him hyped up on coffee and stayed there all weekend with him to get him to draw the map they used to sell the bankers on the park.

Huzzah! Coming up this weekend, I am going to be going down to Garner Holt's place in Redland, California.

And if you've been listening to the show for a while, you know that that is right in my bailiwick.

I am... interested in frontierland and i'm interested in the origins of frontierland and this is going to be about the history of the rainbow caverns mine train or the mine train through nature's wonderland i'm really excited about going down and i had some frequent flyer points so i could make a quick flight from where i am in northern california to where they are in southern california A lot of cool people are going to be there.

Johnny Whitaker is going to be there, who you may remember from Family Affair or the musical version of Tom Sawyer that the Disney company did.

Also, and I'm really excited about this, he was Johnny in Sigmund and the Sea Monsters.

My wife looked at me funny when I acted like that was cool, but it is actually cool.

I'm looking forward to going down and meeting some of the Order of the Red Handkerchief at Garner Holt's
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