Sep 30, 2026 · 47 min · 21 segments
A marriage; a miscarriage. A divorce; a guy who looks (and smells) like a caveman. All in this epic love story. ⭐️ This episode originally ran on February 10, 2016 and is a favorite from the…
And the only thing I knew about it was it was a desert survival course where you go out for seven days and all you had was like a blanket and a knife and a cup.
And I thought, that's crazy.
Like, I don't even understand what that means to go into the desert and spend a night alone with your knife and your cup.
And I think I have to do it.
Wait,
Um...
Like, honestly, something inside me knew that I had to get really, really far outside my comfort zone to help figure out what was going on for me.
I wanted some clarity on what I was thinking.
I wanted to find out if my marriage was something I wanted to save or if I wanted to leave because I didn't know at the time.
And that's frustrating.
It seemed like pretty nutso to me.
If I were in a crisis, that's not what I would do.
But I definitely saw the wisdom in Perry doing it.
The teenagers in town have to take a bus to the nearest high school an hour away.
And the only thing I knew about it was it was a desert survival course where you go out for seven days and all you had was like a blanket and a knife and a cup.
And I thought, that's crazy.
Like, I don't even understand what that means to go into the desert and spend a night alone with your knife and your cup.
And I think I have to do it.
Wait,
Um...
Like, honestly, something inside me knew that I had to get really, really far outside my comfort zone to help figure out what was going on for me.
I wanted some clarity on what I was thinking.
I wanted to find out if my marriage was something I wanted to save or if I wanted to leave because I didn't know at the time.
And that's frustrating.
It seemed like pretty nutso to me.
If I were in a crisis, that's not what I would do.
But I definitely saw the wisdom in Perry doing it.
The teenagers in town have to take a bus to the nearest high school an hour away.
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