The Life Shift | Pivotal Moments & Life Change
Sep 27, 2026 · 1 hr 4 min · 12 segments
Some of us have known something about ourselves for a very long time. And we have spent just as long trying to pretend we didn't. Kate Saint Clair grew up seeing and hearing things no one around her…
Kate Saint ClairGuest
Matt GilhoolyHost
I think, you know, as I... age and look back on the experiences that I had in my own, what I call a big failure of grief for 20 years, I put up a lot of walls.

And, you know, to protect myself and to make sure that I made it to a certain point into which I could be this person and reflect on those moments.

But unknowingly, a lot of us that have done that, or at least I'll speak for myself, these walls are the hardest to break down.

So, you know, like I when you were saying, you know, there's not one person that I read that hasn't had those thoughts.

I mean, also, I wasn't very old, so there's not a lot of memories to carry with me.

But if we were to do that, I don't know that I would be the one that'd be like, yeah.

And I think it's because of all the blockages and the things that I put up that like, to me at this point in my life, it's sounds very terrible to say, but she's more of a, like a figment of, of like what a mom was like, I remember her, but I don't remember her.

So it's very interesting to me to think about what you're saying and that everyone that's open enough or can follow your methodology or whatnot can do that.

But I'm not trying to be a negative Nancy, but I do think of... of that, of like how you must encounter these people that are severely blocked by whatever they've experienced in their own life.

Do you find that there is a way to break through that with what you do? Or do they have to go through other methods first to then like traditional therapy or EMDR or any of those kind of things? Do they do that first and then come to you?

And an X factor is, you know, what would happen is, let's talk about the X factor.

The X factor is, even right now, you connecting with your mom on the other side doesn't bring back her presence anymore.

So there's a part of us that's like, if it's not the way it was, the don't even bother.

I think, you know, as I... age and look back on the experiences that I had in my own, what I call a big failure of grief for 20 years, I put up a lot of walls.

And, you know, to protect myself and to make sure that I made it to a certain point into which I could be this person and reflect on those moments.

But unknowingly, a lot of us that have done that, or at least I'll speak for myself, these walls are the hardest to break down.

So, you know, like I when you were saying, you know, there's not one person that I read that hasn't had those thoughts.

I mean, also, I wasn't very old, so there's not a lot of memories to carry with me.

But if we were to do that, I don't know that I would be the one that'd be like, yeah.

And I think it's because of all the blockages and the things that I put up that like, to me at this point in my life, it's sounds very terrible to say, but she's more of a, like a figment of, of like what a mom was like, I remember her, but I don't remember her.

So it's very interesting to me to think about what you're saying and that everyone that's open enough or can follow your methodology or whatnot can do that.

But I'm not trying to be a negative Nancy, but I do think of... of that, of like how you must encounter these people that are severely blocked by whatever they've experienced in their own life.

Do you find that there is a way to break through that with what you do? Or do they have to go through other methods first to then like traditional therapy or EMDR or any of those kind of things? Do they do that first and then come to you?

And an X factor is, you know, what would happen is, let's talk about the X factor.

The X factor is, even right now, you connecting with your mom on the other side doesn't bring back her presence anymore.

So there's a part of us that's like, if it's not the way it was, the don't even bother.
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