Sep 24, 2026 · 56 min · 19 segments
The hosts of The Kinky Cocktail Hour join the podcast to share their 24/7 D/S dynamic story, how they evolved their relationship over time, and why kink is the way they communicate. **Book A Consult…
Amanda DamesHost
I know this because from the most recent episodes of the podcast I've listened to, Saffir brings out the cocktails or at least announces them and what you're both drinking.

I, Saffir Master, Lady Petra, I told you at the start when you joked, you're like, how long do you have? I was like, I've done part twos before.

And I've got to tell you, I have this little post-it note of notes where I've listed things and I genuinely think we're going to need a part two for multiple reasons.

And then you touched on something that I think could be a whole episode on its own, which is the attention that submissives might need because they don't get it in other relationships and why that might make someone a more needy submissive and maybe navigating that.
And I don't want to blanket that for everyone, but I do think it's a conversation worth having because it's tied to doing complete work, too, because those same individuals are individuals I work with and I see how they move through their other parts of their life.
And so it made me wonder.
And because I'm now flexing my dominance, I also think I have an opinion, obviously, on this because I've been in both worlds.
Absolutely.

And also, I think we're going to also probably have a lot of listeners who, at first, when you describe your attraction style, a lot of people, and I've heard this path before, are going to say, isn't that just how you fall in love? Or like, isn't that just how you decide you're attracted to someone? But no, you're Demi Sapio.
And meaning that we joke now that I found staffers about and I think I was wired because I've been in a marriage that I thought I'm attracted to men.
I mean, it was just like kind of a knee jerk.
But at the same time, if you, you know, listen to what we just said, I didn't know what attraction was because I had never had anyone push that button before.
I was probably pretending because society says, you know, you do this, you do this.
And because I never felt anything when I look at a beautiful woman and I never really felt anything when I looked at a beautiful man.
But at the same time, if the man engaged with me and pushed some buttons, then I was interested.
Do you see what I'm saying? Oh,
didn't even know that I had that wiring.

I know this because from the most recent episodes of the podcast I've listened to, Saffir brings out the cocktails or at least announces them and what you're both drinking.

I, Saffir Master, Lady Petra, I told you at the start when you joked, you're like, how long do you have? I was like, I've done part twos before.

And I've got to tell you, I have this little post-it note of notes where I've listed things and I genuinely think we're going to need a part two for multiple reasons.

And then you touched on something that I think could be a whole episode on its own, which is the attention that submissives might need because they don't get it in other relationships and why that might make someone a more needy submissive and maybe navigating that.
And I don't want to blanket that for everyone, but I do think it's a conversation worth having because it's tied to doing complete work, too, because those same individuals are individuals I work with and I see how they move through their other parts of their life.
And so it made me wonder.
And because I'm now flexing my dominance, I also think I have an opinion, obviously, on this because I've been in both worlds.
Absolutely.

And also, I think we're going to also probably have a lot of listeners who, at first, when you describe your attraction style, a lot of people, and I've heard this path before, are going to say, isn't that just how you fall in love? Or like, isn't that just how you decide you're attracted to someone? But no, you're Demi Sapio.
And meaning that we joke now that I found staffers about and I think I was wired because I've been in a marriage that I thought I'm attracted to men.
I mean, it was just like kind of a knee jerk.
But at the same time, if you, you know, listen to what we just said, I didn't know what attraction was because I had never had anyone push that button before.
I was probably pretending because society says, you know, you do this, you do this.
And because I never felt anything when I look at a beautiful woman and I never really felt anything when I looked at a beautiful man.
But at the same time, if the man engaged with me and pushed some buttons, then I was interested.
Do you see what I'm saying? Oh,
didn't even know that I had that wiring.
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