Aug 20, 2026 · 46 min · 10 segments
**One of my favorite dive-bar conversations with fellow journalists is “What would you do if you couldn’t do this anymore?” We’ve all thought about it; the tough economics of our industry haven’t left…
I've been so excited to talk to you because I've been a fan of yours for a long time.
But for those people who don't know you, tell us who you are and what you do.
And the reason I wanted to have you on is because for a long time I've wanted to talk to somebody for this show who left journalism, left a newsroom to do something interesting.
And I had been following your doula journey and I was like, okay, this is perfect.
And so I'm really interested in that transition, but let's go back to the beginning first.
I saw you say somewhere that you wanted to be a journalist, like from the time you were small.
What I remember is on a visit with my dad, I was just really small and just really struggling and being like, I don't know what on earth I want to do when I grow up.
I've been so excited to talk to you because I've been a fan of yours for a long time.
But for those people who don't know you, tell us who you are and what you do.
And the reason I wanted to have you on is because for a long time I've wanted to talk to somebody for this show who left journalism, left a newsroom to do something interesting.
And I had been following your doula journey and I was like, okay, this is perfect.
And so I'm really interested in that transition, but let's go back to the beginning first.
I saw you say somewhere that you wanted to be a journalist, like from the time you were small.
What I remember is on a visit with my dad, I was just really small and just really struggling and being like, I don't know what on earth I want to do when I grow up.
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