Oct 19, 2026 · 38 min · 13 segments
It’s Party for Two! Jerry talks top stories with Karen Stintz, former Toronto city councillor and TTC Chair. Would you buy a haunted house? Jerry speaks with Frank Leo of Frank Leo and Associates…
Jerry AgarHostCarmi LevyGuest
Frank LeoGuest
Karen StintzGuest
And so, you know, for the record, I think people shouldn't smoke and I think people shouldn't vape.
But I always am cautious around making things illegal for people because then to your point, they'll just find other ways to go about it and which typically will increase the risk of harm rather than decrease.
And although they make choices we don't agree with, the reality is they're their choices to make.
But realistically, it's that kind of social change that makes the big difference, I think.
Why do we have a legal product that we know kills people? And, you know, you can make that argument.
But but the reality is it doesn't stop the product from being manufactured and delivered and used if we make it illegal.
We've we've gone the right approach, which is to make it socially unacceptable to the point where people don't want to do it anymore, as opposed to trying to force the law on a behavior change.
Well, a law that will take effect in the U.K. in January will prohibit anyone born after 2008 from ever legally buying cigarettes.
And, you know, and again, but you're putting it on the people who sell the product to then police the law.
And so, you know, for the record, I think people shouldn't smoke and I think people shouldn't vape.
But I always am cautious around making things illegal for people because then to your point, they'll just find other ways to go about it and which typically will increase the risk of harm rather than decrease.
And although they make choices we don't agree with, the reality is they're their choices to make.
But realistically, it's that kind of social change that makes the big difference, I think.
Why do we have a legal product that we know kills people? And, you know, you can make that argument.
But but the reality is it doesn't stop the product from being manufactured and delivered and used if we make it illegal.
We've we've gone the right approach, which is to make it socially unacceptable to the point where people don't want to do it anymore, as opposed to trying to force the law on a behavior change.
Well, a law that will take effect in the U.K. in January will prohibit anyone born after 2008 from ever legally buying cigarettes.
And, you know, and again, but you're putting it on the people who sell the product to then police the law.
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