The BIGGEST PROBLEMS with VRS (ft messioso)

I think Graham should go first.

He is our expert.

He runs a team, so.

Is

this coming from my personal perspective or from a team perspective? Do both

if they

differ.

I think they differ slightly.

I think overall it's stimulated a lot of growth i think in terms of like the amount of matches like the amount of relevant matches within the ecosystem um you know if i could go back to a more sort of what i would call a sustainable partnership model would i take it probably as a team owner yes if i was one of the partners obviously as not a partner uh that would suck so you know i can see both sides of that coin definitely um I obviously was privileged at the time to be part of the partnerships league.

So that was, you know, for me, it's been a bit of a change.

But yeah, I think if we're taking the shift away from the partnerships, I think that we're not in a bad place right now.

I think that like we have a lot of teams who are playing, they're playing matches that mean something for the most part.

I think there's a lot of teams who are going to get very I don't know, let down in the next six months.

I think that there's going to be a bit of a downturn as people begin to realize that they're chasing something that doesn't exist in terms of like the major qualifications, you know, how much money can you invest into trying to get to, you know, the top 18 in Europe or whatever it is this time around.

Especially, I mean, I don't have the data firsthand because obviously we didn't qualify this time around, but the data I have third hand or third party is atrocious.

Yeah.

It was implied, as in your meaning, it was implied the sticker money was a lot lower, right?

Horrifically bad.

Like, horrifically bad.

So that notion of if you just qualify, you get millions, that's not even real anymore, right? I mean, that was only real once.

And that

was only real at Paris.

Ever since then, it's been, you know, mid to high six figures uh for the teams at least um you know the legends players capsule uh always popped off but other than that it was pretty mediocre across the board for for the other players um now as far as i can tell it is just it's just terrible um i'm sure the legends capsule sorry the um the winners capsule will do well and the the winners obviously will get lots of money but i think apart from that I think every team is probably down.

I think the players are down overall on average because what used to be like a very high concentration in the Legends capsule is now being spread across all the players.

And they're all getting less percentages of that because they're also now sharing their percentage with the teams.

I think Graham should go first.

He is our expert.

He runs a team, so.

Is

this coming from my personal perspective or from a team perspective? Do both

if they

differ.

I think they differ slightly.

I think overall it's stimulated a lot of growth i think in terms of like the amount of matches like the amount of relevant matches within the ecosystem um you know if i could go back to a more sort of what i would call a sustainable partnership model would i take it probably as a team owner yes if i was one of the partners obviously as not a partner uh that would suck so you know i can see both sides of that coin definitely um I obviously was privileged at the time to be part of the partnerships league.

So that was, you know, for me, it's been a bit of a change.

But yeah, I think if we're taking the shift away from the partnerships, I think that we're not in a bad place right now.

I think that like we have a lot of teams who are playing, they're playing matches that mean something for the most part.

I think there's a lot of teams who are going to get very I don't know, let down in the next six months.

I think that there's going to be a bit of a downturn as people begin to realize that they're chasing something that doesn't exist in terms of like the major qualifications, you know, how much money can you invest into trying to get to, you know, the top 18 in Europe or whatever it is this time around.

Especially, I mean, I don't have the data firsthand because obviously we didn't qualify this time around, but the data I have third hand or third party is atrocious.

Yeah.

It was implied, as in your meaning, it was implied the sticker money was a lot lower, right?

Horrifically bad.

Like, horrifically bad.

So that notion of if you just qualify, you get millions, that's not even real anymore, right? I mean, that was only real once.

And that

was only real at Paris.

Ever since then, it's been, you know, mid to high six figures uh for the teams at least um you know the legends players capsule uh always popped off but other than that it was pretty mediocre across the board for for the other players um now as far as i can tell it is just it's just terrible um i'm sure the legends capsule sorry the um the winners capsule will do well and the the winners obviously will get lots of money but i think apart from that I think every team is probably down.

I think the players are down overall on average because what used to be like a very high concentration in the Legends capsule is now being spread across all the players.

And they're all getting less percentages of that because they're also now sharing their percentage with the teams.