Stefan Pagels ChristensenGuest
Francis GormanHost
I often find this, I think my wife often tells me I'm on the spectrum anyway.

But I do see it, especially with security professionals, they, you know, the curiosity to kind of crack something and then okay you figure that next thing let's move on to the next thing or you know to to do something but overdo it so open a bottle of wine well finish the bottle of wine will i open another one maybe not i've wife and kids so keeps keeps you grounded keeps you anchored i'll start a podcast okay well i do it once a month no i'll do it once a week and i'll record three of them just because i haven't got enough fun you know so i think there is that I don't know what it is, but there's probably something a little bit of Faye or different that drives the mindset to not just do something at a level that people consider normal, but to go into hyperdrive, to overdo it, to extend or push past what the limits are.

And that ultimately lands in a crash of some sort, burnout, you're exhausted, you overthink, you can't sleep properly because you're thinking of the next thing, etc., Is that all linked back to kind of how you experienced this and then your coping mechanisms? I presume you hit rock bottom and you had to find a path back up again.
People's rock bottom is always different, right? So someone can be like, oh, I'm losing my job and that's enough for me to change or do something.
Others are, I'm losing my home and others are, unfortunately, or maybe I end up taking someone else's life and I'm put for jail for it.
for life because I have an addictive personality or I have an undiagnosed or untreated or unmedicated diagnosis.
And also sometimes completely people with no diagnosis at all end up doing the same.
the to explain a little bit about like the the brain in in that sense so i always try and explain it as like a closed circuit so this is your brain and it has like a closed circuit and then it has three things that sensed up over here they send it and then they have three channels that receive it and it's like this closed circuit and it shoots like adrenaline dopamine and uh an oxygen and dopamine and no adrenaline, right? Those three things are needed for us to function and focus on a task or whatever.
So let's say that I'm about to get a race or complete a task or my wife will touch me on the thigh.
Then it will like, it would go like from one to 10 and it would shoot these soldiers out in front of my head.
And then they will go and charge back up and be ready to shut out.
And one of the things with drugs is if you take cocaine, for instance, that is putting, as far as I remember, it's putting blockers on the receiving part of things.
So it will shoot up and it will go and, oh, wait, I can't go there.
And in that sense, you will have like, You'll feel super happy, super excited, super focused and whatever.
And then at some point it deteriorates and all the soldiers are picked up in the receiving part and they charge up and go back to be shot.

I often find this, I think my wife often tells me I'm on the spectrum anyway.

But I do see it, especially with security professionals, they, you know, the curiosity to kind of crack something and then okay you figure that next thing let's move on to the next thing or you know to to do something but overdo it so open a bottle of wine well finish the bottle of wine will i open another one maybe not i've wife and kids so keeps keeps you grounded keeps you anchored i'll start a podcast okay well i do it once a month no i'll do it once a week and i'll record three of them just because i haven't got enough fun you know so i think there is that I don't know what it is, but there's probably something a little bit of Faye or different that drives the mindset to not just do something at a level that people consider normal, but to go into hyperdrive, to overdo it, to extend or push past what the limits are.

And that ultimately lands in a crash of some sort, burnout, you're exhausted, you overthink, you can't sleep properly because you're thinking of the next thing, etc., Is that all linked back to kind of how you experienced this and then your coping mechanisms? I presume you hit rock bottom and you had to find a path back up again.
People's rock bottom is always different, right? So someone can be like, oh, I'm losing my job and that's enough for me to change or do something.
Others are, I'm losing my home and others are, unfortunately, or maybe I end up taking someone else's life and I'm put for jail for it.
for life because I have an addictive personality or I have an undiagnosed or untreated or unmedicated diagnosis.
And also sometimes completely people with no diagnosis at all end up doing the same.
the to explain a little bit about like the the brain in in that sense so i always try and explain it as like a closed circuit so this is your brain and it has like a closed circuit and then it has three things that sensed up over here they send it and then they have three channels that receive it and it's like this closed circuit and it shoots like adrenaline dopamine and uh an oxygen and dopamine and no adrenaline, right? Those three things are needed for us to function and focus on a task or whatever.
So let's say that I'm about to get a race or complete a task or my wife will touch me on the thigh.
Then it will like, it would go like from one to 10 and it would shoot these soldiers out in front of my head.
And then they will go and charge back up and be ready to shut out.
And one of the things with drugs is if you take cocaine, for instance, that is putting, as far as I remember, it's putting blockers on the receiving part of things.
So it will shoot up and it will go and, oh, wait, I can't go there.
And in that sense, you will have like, You'll feel super happy, super excited, super focused and whatever.
And then at some point it deteriorates and all the soldiers are picked up in the receiving part and they charge up and go back to be shot.
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