The Energy Impacts with David Blackmon
Sep 3, 2026 · 1 hr 2 min · 15 segments
The Jones Act: America's Self-Inflicted Economic Wound In this episode of the Energy Newsbeat Podcast, hosts Stu Turley and David Blackmon sit down with Colin Grabow, Associate Director of the Cato…
Well, let's talk about in this current crisis, we've had this situation in California where the governor and his minions have stupidly basically shut down the refining industry by and large out there.
And I think they have seven refineries left now out of 32 previously, and six of the seven are already scheduled for retirement here in the coming few years.
So In this current crisis, California had been importing most of its crude oil from Iran and the Persian Gulf.
The president's suspension of the Jones Act has enabled tankers to take crude oil out of refineries, U.S. refineries along the Gulf Coast through the Panama Canal to California.
Talk about the impact that's had just on preventing a major supply crisis hitting the state of California.
yeah that's right as you mentioned california has been shutting down its refineries uh not an expert on this issue but my understanding is you know a hostile regulatory environment is a big contributor to that decision and this is interesting two years ago i believe the los angeles times had a big article about these refineries looming at the time refinery shutdowns what does that mean for california's energy supply where are they going to get the fuel from And it noted in this article that getting from the Gulf Coast geographically, you know, rather close, a little more distant when you take into consideration the Panama Canal, but still not that far, was an unlikely source.
Why? Because it explicitly said the Jones Act, because it makes shipping so expensive.
So instead, it said that places like Korea, Singapore, the Middle East, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom, these were more likely sources of fuel than the Gulf Coast.
Well, now we're performing this interesting experiment where we suspend the Jones Act.
What happens? Well, California has received 50 imports of tanker shipments and the vast majority coming from the Gulf Coast.
And if you look at this from a historical lens, I think right now we've transported about as much under the waiver.
I think only one year exceeds that waiver total, which is five and a half months or so.
in the last six months thanks to the trump administration's waiver of the jones act the last six months we've shipped more we'll go check your tool and check everything else and do the math i went to oklahoma state they didn't teach us how to read or do math but we'll go check the math and we've shipped more in six months than 25 years
Well, let's talk about in this current crisis, we've had this situation in California where the governor and his minions have stupidly basically shut down the refining industry by and large out there.
And I think they have seven refineries left now out of 32 previously, and six of the seven are already scheduled for retirement here in the coming few years.
So In this current crisis, California had been importing most of its crude oil from Iran and the Persian Gulf.
The president's suspension of the Jones Act has enabled tankers to take crude oil out of refineries, U.S. refineries along the Gulf Coast through the Panama Canal to California.
Talk about the impact that's had just on preventing a major supply crisis hitting the state of California.
yeah that's right as you mentioned california has been shutting down its refineries uh not an expert on this issue but my understanding is you know a hostile regulatory environment is a big contributor to that decision and this is interesting two years ago i believe the los angeles times had a big article about these refineries looming at the time refinery shutdowns what does that mean for california's energy supply where are they going to get the fuel from And it noted in this article that getting from the Gulf Coast geographically, you know, rather close, a little more distant when you take into consideration the Panama Canal, but still not that far, was an unlikely source.
Why? Because it explicitly said the Jones Act, because it makes shipping so expensive.
So instead, it said that places like Korea, Singapore, the Middle East, the Netherlands, the United Kingdom, these were more likely sources of fuel than the Gulf Coast.
Well, now we're performing this interesting experiment where we suspend the Jones Act.
What happens? Well, California has received 50 imports of tanker shipments and the vast majority coming from the Gulf Coast.
And if you look at this from a historical lens, I think right now we've transported about as much under the waiver.
I think only one year exceeds that waiver total, which is five and a half months or so.
in the last six months thanks to the trump administration's waiver of the jones act the last six months we've shipped more we'll go check your tool and check everything else and do the math i went to oklahoma state they didn't teach us how to read or do math but we'll go check the math and we've shipped more in six months than 25 years
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