How to Go Deeper: a Conversation with Eleusinia's own Curandera Josefina

What does it truly mean to walk the path of plant medicine? And what happens when the work of healing becomes a return to the wisdom, traditions, and roots that came before us? In this deeply honest and expansive conversation, we sit down with Josefina, Eleusinia's own Curandera to explore her ancestral relationship with plant medicines, her spiritual evolution, and how her life's purpose ultimately became a journey of returning to her roots. Growing up surrounded by plant medicines, Josefina shares how her early experiences shaped the woman and practitioner she is today. She takes us through the evolution of her spiritual path and the unfolding of Eleusinia Retreat, offering an intimate look into the philosophy, intention, and responsibility behind the work. Josefina does not hold back as she takes us behind the scenes of what it means to welcome guests upon arrival and then into their first macro-dose experience. She shares her approach to preparing individuals for these profound experiences in ceremony, the importance of cultivating a relationship with the medicine, and why the experience itself is only one part of a much deeper journey. We also explore the differences between DMT and psilocybin, how our relationships with these medicines can evolve, and what it means to approach them with reverence, intention, and respect. Drawing from the experiences of more than 1,500 guests, we reflect on the transformations we've witnessed, the patterns that emerge over time, and the distinctions between genuine inner work and the often glamorized or misrepresented narratives circulating throughout online psychedelic culture. This is a conversation about ancestral wisdom, spiritual responsibility, the evolution of healing, and what it really means to do the work.