Why I Asked For A Divorce.

I firmly think it's quite important for a couple to have a couple friend.

I think at least for, for my marriage, it allows us to ventilate certain thoughts and to reset baseline.

Mm.

Because-

Mm

...

there are certain times whereby, like for example, we might forget that Gary's a very nice guy-

Mm

... because you live with him every day.

Mm.

Then sometimes you meet me, then you realize, "Wow, Gary is-

Actually a very nice person

... a much better guy than John." [laughs] Then you know-

[laughs]

... you go home thinking you appreciate him a bit more-

[laughs]

...

but nothing, nothing John said, nothing Gary said.

Correct.

Yeah, yeah.

Actually, that is very helpful.

So you need, you need a foil.

But then my friends around me is like, uh, Simon, you know what I mean? [laughs]

[laughs]

[laughs]