Oct 5, 2026 · 30 min · 10 segments
Jeff Westphal is an executive, entrepreneur, philanthropist, conservationist, and author of *A Work Life Worth Living*. After years of building and leading a successful company, Jeff realized that…
Jeff WestphalGuest
Richard SchusterHost
I love every aspect of what you're doing, Jeff, because the, the data is so clear, and unfortunately the data is trending in the wrong direction.

You have a tremendous amount of people in the workplace right now that lack fulfillment, that are miserable, that are gaslit into believing you're lucky to have a job and you should be grateful that you have a job, when in fact everybody should be able to live a life where they get fulfillment for what they do.

Uh, because the alternative of that is aside from the fact that you go decades through life kind of wasting away and then wake up one day in your 60s going, "What the hell happened?" There's pretty strong data about the physiological and the psychological effects of an unfulfilled work life and then how that spills into other domains of your life, like marriages, like parenting, you know.

I, I don't know what the data says, uh, but I suspect instances of divorce are not higher [laughs] when people love what they do in their work life, right? Like, it's, it's just intuitive that, like these negative emotions can spill into everything, so can the positive.

If you love what you do 40 to 50 hours a week and you come home, you're a different person than somebody who's miserable, has to sit in traffic, and comes home and is expected to put on a smile for a spouse and children.

[laughs] But as you know, I wrap up every episode by asking my guests just this one question, and that is, what is your biggest helping, that one most important piece of information you'd like somebody to walk away with after hearing our conversation today?

Well, together we built the world we have, so only together will we build the world we want, and that means each of us has a brick to lay in that great bridge from this world to the next, the world of the future.

And my brick in that great bridge is to help anybody anywhere figure out what their brick is.

What are you contributing to the world that's possible for us all? And, um, that's my way of helping, and I'm fortunate to have that opportunity.

I love every aspect of what you're doing, Jeff, because the, the data is so clear, and unfortunately the data is trending in the wrong direction.

You have a tremendous amount of people in the workplace right now that lack fulfillment, that are miserable, that are gaslit into believing you're lucky to have a job and you should be grateful that you have a job, when in fact everybody should be able to live a life where they get fulfillment for what they do.

Uh, because the alternative of that is aside from the fact that you go decades through life kind of wasting away and then wake up one day in your 60s going, "What the hell happened?" There's pretty strong data about the physiological and the psychological effects of an unfulfilled work life and then how that spills into other domains of your life, like marriages, like parenting, you know.

I, I don't know what the data says, uh, but I suspect instances of divorce are not higher [laughs] when people love what they do in their work life, right? Like, it's, it's just intuitive that, like these negative emotions can spill into everything, so can the positive.

If you love what you do 40 to 50 hours a week and you come home, you're a different person than somebody who's miserable, has to sit in traffic, and comes home and is expected to put on a smile for a spouse and children.

[laughs] But as you know, I wrap up every episode by asking my guests just this one question, and that is, what is your biggest helping, that one most important piece of information you'd like somebody to walk away with after hearing our conversation today?

Well, together we built the world we have, so only together will we build the world we want, and that means each of us has a brick to lay in that great bridge from this world to the next, the world of the future.

And my brick in that great bridge is to help anybody anywhere figure out what their brick is.

What are you contributing to the world that's possible for us all? And, um, that's my way of helping, and I'm fortunate to have that opportunity.
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