Nov 5, 2026 · 1 hr 19 min · 14 segments
He got sober at 22. Fifteen years later, Stephen realized he was still suffering. He had stopped drinking. Now he had to learn how to live. Stephen E. grew up knowing recovery worked. His father…
That's a, and that's a revelation.
Yeah.
You know, that's a huge revelation.
You know, we are the problem and not the solution, you know, and, uh, man, it's, uh, I love that mirror thing.
I, my first sponsor, Matt had me, you know, right on my bathroom mirror.
and he loves you.
And I had that on my, on
my mirror for like two years, you know, and, and it was so like, uh, powerful you know um and they're new concepts for people like us
you know
i'm like i just uh who knew i thought it was i thought i was i thought i had all the answers you know
And I you know, but my biggest struggle throughout the entire process was always the spiritual side of this program, always the spiritual side of this program.
Well, and you, you mentioned, um, you know, that the fellowship, um, and is one of your favorite recovery tools helps you to get out of self.
How, how did you, um, like what is, what is being stuck in self look like and how does the fellowship get you out of it?
I got to the point where I realized in step six that if I have something I still want to hold on, I'm not ready to get rid of, I just have to ask for the willingness to get rid of it, which tells me, oh, I can hold on to that.
That's a, and that's a revelation.
Yeah.
You know, that's a huge revelation.
You know, we are the problem and not the solution, you know, and, uh, man, it's, uh, I love that mirror thing.
I, my first sponsor, Matt had me, you know, right on my bathroom mirror.
and he loves you.
And I had that on my, on
my mirror for like two years, you know, and, and it was so like, uh, powerful you know um and they're new concepts for people like us
you know
i'm like i just uh who knew i thought it was i thought i was i thought i had all the answers you know
And I you know, but my biggest struggle throughout the entire process was always the spiritual side of this program, always the spiritual side of this program.
Well, and you, you mentioned, um, you know, that the fellowship, um, and is one of your favorite recovery tools helps you to get out of self.
How, how did you, um, like what is, what is being stuck in self look like and how does the fellowship get you out of it?
I got to the point where I realized in step six that if I have something I still want to hold on, I'm not ready to get rid of, I just have to ask for the willingness to get rid of it, which tells me, oh, I can hold on to that.
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