Aug 18, 2026 · 1 hr 46 min · 13 segments
The fellas are back to tackle the latest wave of releases and spoilers with some hands-on experience to supplement their hot takes. They then dive into the differences between playing as the attacker…
Ooh.
You know, one of the th- things we talked about was defenses.
Are they still worth it? Are we still taking them? You guys gotten the chance to-
Yeah
... put them on the table?
They're be- they're mostly basically just round out a list for me if I'm at, like, 99 points and I don't have a one-point solo, I'll throw in...
I tried a powder keg and that was stupid.
Pit traps for a point are pretty worth it.
[laughs]
I do know, though, that when we did the June update conversation, we were pretty much like, "Meh, no one's gonna play defenses anymore because they cost points," and, you know, what's, what's the value in that? Uh, but then I noticed Mark's-
Hmm
... been running a couple lists with defenses and I was like, "Oh, maybe they're not as useless as we originally thought." So yeah, I guess I'm getting curious about reassessing defenses.
Do we see value in them now, especially without the sapper counter play?
I found, I found a little bit of value.
I'll jump in with this.
Yeah, yeah
... you get free corpses.
Yay.
Ri- right up there with the Exalted Plague.
That's not where you blow up your own models to get-
Yeah, exactly
... free souls or corpses.
Yeah.
Ooh.
You know, one of the th- things we talked about was defenses.
Are they still worth it? Are we still taking them? You guys gotten the chance to-
Yeah
... put them on the table?
They're be- they're mostly basically just round out a list for me if I'm at, like, 99 points and I don't have a one-point solo, I'll throw in...
I tried a powder keg and that was stupid.
Pit traps for a point are pretty worth it.
[laughs]
I do know, though, that when we did the June update conversation, we were pretty much like, "Meh, no one's gonna play defenses anymore because they cost points," and, you know, what's, what's the value in that? Uh, but then I noticed Mark's-
Hmm
... been running a couple lists with defenses and I was like, "Oh, maybe they're not as useless as we originally thought." So yeah, I guess I'm getting curious about reassessing defenses.
Do we see value in them now, especially without the sapper counter play?
I found, I found a little bit of value.
I'll jump in with this.
Yeah, yeah
... you get free corpses.
Yay.
Ri- right up there with the Exalted Plague.
That's not where you blow up your own models to get-
Yeah, exactly
... free souls or corpses.
Yeah.
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