Rosa Parks, Mahalia Jackson, and the Women Behind the March on Washington | Dr. Marcia Chatelain

Now for the title, is that a song lyric or what specifically is the title for this book?

So one of the things that anyone who's worked with me on publishing knows, I'm so bad at coming up with titles.

I cannot title my work.

And so the editor and some folks at the press were thinking about different titles for the book and how bright the path grows comes is a line from a song, Resting on the Everlasting Arms, which is a hymn that one of the people in my book, Diane Nash, talks about, recalling that hymn as she is trying to get through the civil rights struggle.

You know, she had been arrested for her sit-in activism.

She was arrested while pregnant in Mississippi for organizing.

This idea of, you know, what line she thinks in her head, you know, how bright the path grows.

It took a while for us to get there.

And I was like, I don't know.

I don't know about this title.

But I needed to have a seat because it's such a beautiful image, right? This idea that the work towards freedom, that the journey, that the struggle was all about, that there's a brightness that is around the corner that we have to stay committed.

So I love the title now.

That's well said.

And you talk about another conversation.

You talk about looking at the past and there's many ways to look at it.