Jul 24, 2026 · 57 min · 13 segments
Elissa and I get comfortable being uncomfortable about being comfortable. Elissa's IG: @elissamaasweinzimmer Voice Body Connection IG…
Elissa Maas WeinzimmerGuest
Ben GoodmanHostWe're also, for what it's worth, many, many people are in a safety crisis too, and that's even more serious.
But if our safety is met, I think a lot of us are in a comfort crisis where we don't think we deserve comfort.

I don't know if you used that term when I first heard this, but that difference there is so key to me.

And I think sort of what helps guide where I wanted to go already with this conversation.

Because I think that this mistake, there's like so many... mistaken notions around comfort, I think, that layered on top of each other.

So you've talked about this idea of the comfort zone and that growth only happens outside of the comfort zone.

And I think there is something to maturation, a part of maturation being about widening your capacity to be comfortable with discomfort, certainly.

And I still think it's fundamentally about finding comfort and that differentiation and, um, a way of being with, it can be physical or emotional distress.

That's like not about minimizing, um, the pain, but about having more of a well of resource to be with it.

Um, like I, I remember being on a There's a lot of weird stuff around this in the meditation world where people are like super into how much can you sit and how much pain can you endure.
We're also, for what it's worth, many, many people are in a safety crisis too, and that's even more serious.
But if our safety is met, I think a lot of us are in a comfort crisis where we don't think we deserve comfort.

I don't know if you used that term when I first heard this, but that difference there is so key to me.

And I think sort of what helps guide where I wanted to go already with this conversation.

Because I think that this mistake, there's like so many... mistaken notions around comfort, I think, that layered on top of each other.

So you've talked about this idea of the comfort zone and that growth only happens outside of the comfort zone.

And I think there is something to maturation, a part of maturation being about widening your capacity to be comfortable with discomfort, certainly.

And I still think it's fundamentally about finding comfort and that differentiation and, um, a way of being with, it can be physical or emotional distress.

That's like not about minimizing, um, the pain, but about having more of a well of resource to be with it.

Um, like I, I remember being on a There's a lot of weird stuff around this in the meditation world where people are like super into how much can you sit and how much pain can you endure.
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