Understanding & Navigating The Manosphere with Professor Ross White

And I love the fact that that was split into three things because quite often people will hear that word is thrown around, isn't it? You hear the word misogyny and I wonder whether people actually know what does that actually mean? It probably sounds like a really silly question, but I think a lot of people are scared to have conversations about it.

Yeah.

It's breaking down these concepts in terms of misogyny, but also masculinity, because I've only ever seen it written as masculinity.

I don't think I've ever seen it written in a different way.

How do you see those terms?

Yeah, I've been really influenced by some of the sociologists who have focused on gender.

And there's this idea by R.W. Connell about hegemonic masculinity.

And that tends to be the model of masculinity that can dominate in particular cultures.

So there's no doubt that over the last number of decades, there has been a particular version of masculinity that has been really presented to men and young men, boys coming through that can at times be problematic, but it's one version of masculinity and there are other masculinities vying for attention.

that are there but maybe receive less of the spotlight so yes that was the key point really with that first article exploring other masculinities caring masculinities that allow men to take that role as a caregiver and i'm really committed to this idea about broadening our understanding about what masculinities are about

So can we dive into that a little bit in terms of so somebody may be hearing this for the first time in terms of what are they?

Yeah.

What can that

look like?

Yeah.

So there is an anthropologist called David Gilmour.

David Gilmour did a lot of cross-cultural research interested to see, well, what are the dominant models of masculinity that seem to occur across these cultures? And he actually came up with a recognition by what subsequently became known as the three P's

of

masculinity.

So men have a role as a procreator, men have a role as a provider, and men have a role as a protector.

So the three Ps.

Now that gets misinterpreted, I think, as being synonymous with strength and domination.

Yes, that's the first thing that came to my mind as you were saying that.

Yeah.

So what I was doing in that article, the first article, was trying to broaden our understanding about what those three Ps, So procreation, well, what does that mean? If you're not a father, does that mean you're