Tests and the Rest: College Admissions Podcast
Sep 29, 2026 · 27 min · 7 segments
It is often said that intention is one thing, but execution is another. That observation is little comfort to students who study and prepare with the best intentions yet still fail to reach their…
Bobby NicholsonGuestAmy SeeleyHostAll of us have this experience of speaking to parents or students who complain that their test scores don't represent who they are or that they thought they put in.
Let's start with bad test takers, because that's pretty common where people say I'm a bad test taker, which is to say that the skill of taking a test is somehow unrelated to knowing what is on the test or showing how you know it.
Bobby, when you hear that, how do you respond to a statement like that? I'm just not a good test taker.

Yeah, I would say that absolutely it is very common for students to come in with that mindset.

And one of the things we try to do, and all great test prep professionals that I'm aware of do, is to... remove the idea that they just are a certain way from what they could be.

And it is possible that their anxieties are overcoming them right now or that...

They are, you know, bad test takers because they might be bad test takers right now, meaning that they don't know how to take tests well.

And so I think that is the initial barrier every great test prep professional has to overcome for that student.

To have the chance of achieving at the level they can, because if they don't believe that it's possible, there's no way they're going to put in the work necessary to achieve or have the right mindset that they're just trying to figure out what they need to figure out.
Like what you said is mindset, right? The idea of if you go into it with an attitude that you can't, right? It's obviously then you're setting the tone for it.
Also too, Mike and I talk about sometimes is the idea of, yeah, if you send someone in to play a game where they don't know the rules, why would you expect them to do well, right? So being a bad test taker means you haven't learned what you need, in which case the outcome is certain if you don't learn more, right? Yeah.
All of us have this experience of speaking to parents or students who complain that their test scores don't represent who they are or that they thought they put in.
Let's start with bad test takers, because that's pretty common where people say I'm a bad test taker, which is to say that the skill of taking a test is somehow unrelated to knowing what is on the test or showing how you know it.
Bobby, when you hear that, how do you respond to a statement like that? I'm just not a good test taker.

Yeah, I would say that absolutely it is very common for students to come in with that mindset.

And one of the things we try to do, and all great test prep professionals that I'm aware of do, is to... remove the idea that they just are a certain way from what they could be.

And it is possible that their anxieties are overcoming them right now or that...

They are, you know, bad test takers because they might be bad test takers right now, meaning that they don't know how to take tests well.

And so I think that is the initial barrier every great test prep professional has to overcome for that student.

To have the chance of achieving at the level they can, because if they don't believe that it's possible, there's no way they're going to put in the work necessary to achieve or have the right mindset that they're just trying to figure out what they need to figure out.
Like what you said is mindset, right? The idea of if you go into it with an attitude that you can't, right? It's obviously then you're setting the tone for it.
Also too, Mike and I talk about sometimes is the idea of, yeah, if you send someone in to play a game where they don't know the rules, why would you expect them to do well, right? So being a bad test taker means you haven't learned what you need, in which case the outcome is certain if you don't learn more, right? Yeah.
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