Apr 14, 2026 · 53 min · 10 segments
As we work our way towards a better future for the internet, the most encouraging and exciting part is the people out there building towards that future. Kickstarter founder Yancey Strickler is one…
Yancey StricklerGuest
Mike MasnickHost
Now, I know that part of this is that you've talked about it being sort of decentralized protocol-based, which is my wheelhouse in terms of general interest.

Yeah, so all the data in like all accounts, all objects, all records in both MetaLabel and in DFOS use DIDs underneath the hood.

So publicly addressable content that can be referred to, that can move around the internet, and that is owned by the user and not by the platform.

Now, the thing that we've done with dids on Defoss is made it so that these keys are publicly addressable and referenceable, but the data inside, the contents inside are default

And just using, connecting the did structure on MetaLabel now, or on Defoss now, and say connecting it to an MCP and say vibe coding on top of it, as I've done in offing my personal did, my user address, I was able to create... using cloud code to create like a dropbox mirror of every post i've made across every default space you know saved into a like an email client-like interface and i've set it to just sync and save for everything i've done once a day and so it gives me a local copy of anything i've made using just the dead structure that's there.

And so that sort of structure and foundation can happen on an individual level, but it can also happen at a space level.

So we're going to experiment with someone about running a DFOS on a mesh network, creating instances that can exist beyond us using the relay system.

We right now are prioritizing our core product experience and sort of defining what it is.

And we're always product over protocol in terms of what the priority is, for sure.

But you can use AI to make great documentation, to make something that's very easy for other agents to read.

And so we're already having people building on top of this and playing games and creating mind maps of their data, all that sort of stuff.

The other beauty of this model is that it's not something that we can revoke with like a terms of use change.

I mean, you could, whatever, you could rebuild your whole system or do all of that.

But like, this is just, it's just cryptographic data that someone can verify if it's true or not.

And, you know, when that sort of, it still has to be a product-led experience.

Now, I know that part of this is that you've talked about it being sort of decentralized protocol-based, which is my wheelhouse in terms of general interest.

Yeah, so all the data in like all accounts, all objects, all records in both MetaLabel and in DFOS use DIDs underneath the hood.

So publicly addressable content that can be referred to, that can move around the internet, and that is owned by the user and not by the platform.

Now, the thing that we've done with dids on Defoss is made it so that these keys are publicly addressable and referenceable, but the data inside, the contents inside are default

And just using, connecting the did structure on MetaLabel now, or on Defoss now, and say connecting it to an MCP and say vibe coding on top of it, as I've done in offing my personal did, my user address, I was able to create... using cloud code to create like a dropbox mirror of every post i've made across every default space you know saved into a like an email client-like interface and i've set it to just sync and save for everything i've done once a day and so it gives me a local copy of anything i've made using just the dead structure that's there.

And so that sort of structure and foundation can happen on an individual level, but it can also happen at a space level.

So we're going to experiment with someone about running a DFOS on a mesh network, creating instances that can exist beyond us using the relay system.

We right now are prioritizing our core product experience and sort of defining what it is.

And we're always product over protocol in terms of what the priority is, for sure.

But you can use AI to make great documentation, to make something that's very easy for other agents to read.

And so we're already having people building on top of this and playing games and creating mind maps of their data, all that sort of stuff.

The other beauty of this model is that it's not something that we can revoke with like a terms of use change.

I mean, you could, whatever, you could rebuild your whole system or do all of that.

But like, this is just, it's just cryptographic data that someone can verify if it's true or not.

And, you know, when that sort of, it still has to be a product-led experience.
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