Takeoff: A Points and Miles Podcast by 10xTravel
Aug 12, 2026 · 22 min · 10 segments
Points and miles can look complicated from the outside. But for many beginners, the biggest obstacles aren't finding the right transfer partner or choosing the perfect credit card. It's actually the…
For years, I thought, like, the, any second now, any second now, the other shoe will drop or, like, any second now, you know-
Well, there's a cop knocking on my door.
I gotta run.
Ha ha.
Yeah, I'm Bryce.
That-
Yeah.
What's the warrant?
That this wasn't gonna work-
[laughs]
... or that some negative thing would come out of the credit card.
So my, um, my grandfather worked in banking his entire career, and he even pulled Bryce aside and was like, "You know, son, you, you, you can't, like, all, opening all these credit cards, you know, those aren't, that's not good for you." You know? Like just how-
I remember
... different the idea of credit cards was, and so, oh yeah, for years, years and years and years, I was anxious about that.
The 10x Travel team is so incredible and just l- listen to the podcast, learn about it, and maybe you'll open up to it, but, you know, here we are.
I think we're always gonna face that kind of skepticism.
The thing that Bryce told me that helped incredibly was think of this as extreme couponing, 'cause I love that show.
I love that, that show on TLC, [laughs] Extreme Couponers, and that clicked in my brain.
Something about that, that you think of this as a, as extreme couponing.
You're using coupons, you're stacking them together, you're figuring out this map, and it does take a lot of time and effort.
That made me feel better.
That put it into terms that I understood, I guess.
[laughs]
For years, I thought, like, the, any second now, any second now, the other shoe will drop or, like, any second now, you know-
Well, there's a cop knocking on my door.
I gotta run.
Ha ha.
Yeah, I'm Bryce.
That-
Yeah.
What's the warrant?
That this wasn't gonna work-
[laughs]
... or that some negative thing would come out of the credit card.
So my, um, my grandfather worked in banking his entire career, and he even pulled Bryce aside and was like, "You know, son, you, you, you can't, like, all, opening all these credit cards, you know, those aren't, that's not good for you." You know? Like just how-
I remember
... different the idea of credit cards was, and so, oh yeah, for years, years and years and years, I was anxious about that.
The 10x Travel team is so incredible and just l- listen to the podcast, learn about it, and maybe you'll open up to it, but, you know, here we are.
I think we're always gonna face that kind of skepticism.
The thing that Bryce told me that helped incredibly was think of this as extreme couponing, 'cause I love that show.
I love that, that show on TLC, [laughs] Extreme Couponers, and that clicked in my brain.
Something about that, that you think of this as a, as extreme couponing.
You're using coupons, you're stacking them together, you're figuring out this map, and it does take a lot of time and effort.
That made me feel better.
That put it into terms that I understood, I guess.
[laughs]
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