Aug 7, 2026 · 19 min · 9 segments
Most people building passive income are chasing a number. We were chasing something else entirely. In this episode, Michael and Liz sit down together from Taipei, Taiwan, where they're spending their…
Michael ChangHost
Elizabeth ChangHost
So when I was working at the corporate, after I moved to New York City for school and found a job, I had a golden handcuff, the classic golden handcuff.

And every year I get to only see my closest family for about 10 days, 10 vacation days, up to 14 days, maybe at that time.

I didn't go all the way there to pursue a career and end up losing my family, right? They're the closest people that I had.

So I'm able to do what we're doing now, have the control of when I want to spend time with my family and also allow our kids to really experience what I had growing up, which is being really close with the family.

Yeah, it's something that in, you know, in the modern society, like we live in New York City full time.

responsibility and now it's all on the parents and i think here we get a little break too

So when I was working at the corporate, after I moved to New York City for school and found a job, I had a golden handcuff, the classic golden handcuff.

And every year I get to only see my closest family for about 10 days, 10 vacation days, up to 14 days, maybe at that time.

I didn't go all the way there to pursue a career and end up losing my family, right? They're the closest people that I had.

So I'm able to do what we're doing now, have the control of when I want to spend time with my family and also allow our kids to really experience what I had growing up, which is being really close with the family.

Yeah, it's something that in, you know, in the modern society, like we live in New York City full time.

responsibility and now it's all on the parents and i think here we get a little break too
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