Aug 21, 2026 · 42 min · 12 segments
When Jillian Hadley burst from her home, she was clutching her baby, and she was naked. She was screaming for help, trying to escape the grip of a man. The man was her estranged husband. He was under…
Liz HothHostSo what is the nature of humanity? that these people can behave to us in these kind of ways.
And yet we still care for them.
How is that possible?
When I think about Jillian, and when I think about the way she died and how horrible it was, that certainly can bring tears to my eyes.
Because she knew she was going to die that day.
She knew she was going to die that day.
And it's a horrible way to go.
She struggled so hard to get out of Ralph's grip.
She was absolutely desperate to escape.
And she was unable to.
That's the hardest part to revisit.
Although my feeling is if I could portray it vividly enough for everybody to experience it for a minute, I would do it because it's very motivating.
It sure makes me think, what can I do to prevent that happening again?
What is most striking is that Jillian was on the street naked.
Look at us as people, neighbors, families.
You know, unless you're at a baseball game and somebody's streaking across the field, which is an extremely rare occurrence, you don't see somebody naked on the street.
This woman had nothing on.
And that... that image...
It strips the whole situation down.
That this woman could be caught in her bath and be terrified to the point that she does not care she's got anything on.
She is running for her life.
And that there's people on the street.
You know, we warn our kids, you know, about kidnapping-type situations.
And, you know, if you're caught on the street, make as much noise as you can.
Draw as much attention as you can to yourself before you get stuffed in a vehicle.
So what is the nature of humanity? that these people can behave to us in these kind of ways.
And yet we still care for them.
How is that possible?
When I think about Jillian, and when I think about the way she died and how horrible it was, that certainly can bring tears to my eyes.
Because she knew she was going to die that day.
She knew she was going to die that day.
And it's a horrible way to go.
She struggled so hard to get out of Ralph's grip.
She was absolutely desperate to escape.
And she was unable to.
That's the hardest part to revisit.
Although my feeling is if I could portray it vividly enough for everybody to experience it for a minute, I would do it because it's very motivating.
It sure makes me think, what can I do to prevent that happening again?
What is most striking is that Jillian was on the street naked.
Look at us as people, neighbors, families.
You know, unless you're at a baseball game and somebody's streaking across the field, which is an extremely rare occurrence, you don't see somebody naked on the street.
This woman had nothing on.
And that... that image...
It strips the whole situation down.
That this woman could be caught in her bath and be terrified to the point that she does not care she's got anything on.
She is running for her life.
And that there's people on the street.
You know, we warn our kids, you know, about kidnapping-type situations.
And, you know, if you're caught on the street, make as much noise as you can.
Draw as much attention as you can to yourself before you get stuffed in a vehicle.
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