May 7, 2026 · 24 min · 14 segments
The reported deaths of two CIA officers in Mexico have sparked questions, sharp reactions, and widespread speculation. But what really happened - and what does it reveal about how U.S. intelligence…
Ralph GoffGuestSuzanne KellyHost
But so, um, the death of two CIA officers, this is a serious thing, right? It's, it's, you know, they're civilians, not military.
You know, we have our Martyrs Wall, the, you know, the memorial wall with the stars.
There's 140 on there now, so, you know, these guys, uh, will be 141, 142 unfortunately, right? And in the time of my career, I remember when I first came in in the late '80s, the, the book where they list some of the names, right, a lot of the names from the stars are not there because their, their missions are still classified, but it was one page.
Well, in the time that I served there, it became two pages, right? Following the, particularly following the events of 9/11.
So it's a, it's a sad and somber and reflective moment for CIA employees, um, worldwide and at headquarters.
But so, um, the death of two CIA officers, this is a serious thing, right? It's, it's, you know, they're civilians, not military.
You know, we have our Martyrs Wall, the, you know, the memorial wall with the stars.
There's 140 on there now, so, you know, these guys, uh, will be 141, 142 unfortunately, right? And in the time of my career, I remember when I first came in in the late '80s, the, the book where they list some of the names, right, a lot of the names from the stars are not there because their, their missions are still classified, but it was one page.
Well, in the time that I served there, it became two pages, right? Following the, particularly following the events of 9/11.
So it's a, it's a sad and somber and reflective moment for CIA employees, um, worldwide and at headquarters.
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