Aug 10, 2026 · 18 min · 9 segments
Email marketing in 2026 doesn't look like it did even a few years ago — and if your sequences still feel like guesswork, you're not alone. The truth is, most email sales sequences fail for one simple…
Alison HardyGuestJenna HardingHostIf you told me a peanut butter and jam sandwich would grow my audience, I would make you a peanut butter and jam sandwich, including teaching workshops in the basement of the bar that I worked at, um, teaching people social media.
I put a paper list on a stool at the back of the room with a pen and said, "Put your name and email here and you can be on my email list," pretending I had one.
Even if you just have five names on that list, that is a list, and we're gonna treat it like it is 5,000 names.
You know what else I want you to know? I want you to know that a lot of the huge names that you rec- respect in online business don't actually even have massive lists with thousands and thousands and thousands of people like you think they do.
They're just really strategic, and they're really good at selling to the audience that they do have.
If you told me a peanut butter and jam sandwich would grow my audience, I would make you a peanut butter and jam sandwich, including teaching workshops in the basement of the bar that I worked at, um, teaching people social media.
I put a paper list on a stool at the back of the room with a pen and said, "Put your name and email here and you can be on my email list," pretending I had one.
Even if you just have five names on that list, that is a list, and we're gonna treat it like it is 5,000 names.
You know what else I want you to know? I want you to know that a lot of the huge names that you rec- respect in online business don't actually even have massive lists with thousands and thousands and thousands of people like you think they do.
They're just really strategic, and they're really good at selling to the audience that they do have.
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