Saturday Extra - Separate stories podcast
Oct 2, 2026 · 15 min · 9 segments
The first round of voting in Brazil's presidential and parliamentary election starts on Sunday. The main contest is between the 80-year-old incumbent Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, and his rival Flávio…
Ana LankesGuest
Nick BryantHost
So to what extent is his son's candidacy a kind of a proxy candidacy for his father? Is, is, is Flávio Bolsonaro on a kind of vengeance mission here?

The only reason people will vote for him is because his father is Jair Bolsonaro.

And in lots of the pictures in the campaigns, you know, I've traveled around the country, the pictures are of Flávio with his dad in the background.

So there aren't many proposals beyond liberating his father and impeaching the Supreme Court justices who sent his father to jail.

But I think one thing I would like to say is just that the tragedy of Brazil is essentially that you have one political movement where the leader has clung to power for too long for an heir to emerge, which is the left, and then on the right, you have another political movement which has basically been captured by a single family, and that's the Bolsonaro dynasty.

And that family and the intrigue around that family would make for A soap opera that would run into multiple seasons.

So Jair Bolsonaro, his third and current wife, Michelle Bolsonaro, she's much, much younger than him.

But she was partly not chosen because, according to people close to Jair, she's a woman.

So to what extent is his son's candidacy a kind of a proxy candidacy for his father? Is, is, is Flávio Bolsonaro on a kind of vengeance mission here?

The only reason people will vote for him is because his father is Jair Bolsonaro.

And in lots of the pictures in the campaigns, you know, I've traveled around the country, the pictures are of Flávio with his dad in the background.

So there aren't many proposals beyond liberating his father and impeaching the Supreme Court justices who sent his father to jail.

But I think one thing I would like to say is just that the tragedy of Brazil is essentially that you have one political movement where the leader has clung to power for too long for an heir to emerge, which is the left, and then on the right, you have another political movement which has basically been captured by a single family, and that's the Bolsonaro dynasty.

And that family and the intrigue around that family would make for A soap opera that would run into multiple seasons.

So Jair Bolsonaro, his third and current wife, Michelle Bolsonaro, she's much, much younger than him.

But she was partly not chosen because, according to people close to Jair, she's a woman.
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