Relational Practice: a social work podcast
Sep 13, 2026 · 1 hr 13 min · 11 segments
Ever wonder why a delayed text message or a slight shift in tone can send an adult's nervous system into absolute freefall? It's because the body never forgets the quiet relational ruptures of…
Jodie ParkHost
Rose MackeyHost
And so the reason we're gonna talk about that is because, as Rose and I were just having this chat while we were trying to set all our tech up, which actually took forever [laughs] but anyway, we're here now.
Um, it's because for a long time, and I said this to Rose, I was banging on about psychological trauma and psychological harm, and the, just the pervasive kind of impact it has on people's sense of wellbeing and their whole life.
And I think what I realized is that I think in, when I used to, when I bang on about that, I'm actually talking about this topic.
And I didn't really realize that until I started reading about abandonment trauma, and then I thought we all need to know this.
And I think the other confusing part about abandonment tra- trauma is the language.
... all the time, and sometimes I question, do I understand the difference between psychological harm and emotional harm? And then I think they become so intertwined-
... and interconnected because they are, but I think then our language gets a bit distorted.
And then when you think about the definitions of acute trauma, single incident trauma, complex trauma in childhood-
... we use all of these words, and sometimes we're saying the same things, and sometimes we're describing very different events.
And so I'm excited, because I think the distinction in the language is really important.
And for some people, you'll probably listen today and go, "Oh my god, yes, of course." And it's kinda like, it might be an episode that just verifies that absolutely this is what, you know, you're seeing and this is how you've been practicing.
And so the reason we're gonna talk about that is because, as Rose and I were just having this chat while we were trying to set all our tech up, which actually took forever [laughs] but anyway, we're here now.
Um, it's because for a long time, and I said this to Rose, I was banging on about psychological trauma and psychological harm, and the, just the pervasive kind of impact it has on people's sense of wellbeing and their whole life.
And I think what I realized is that I think in, when I used to, when I bang on about that, I'm actually talking about this topic.
And I didn't really realize that until I started reading about abandonment trauma, and then I thought we all need to know this.
And I think the other confusing part about abandonment tra- trauma is the language.
... all the time, and sometimes I question, do I understand the difference between psychological harm and emotional harm? And then I think they become so intertwined-
... and interconnected because they are, but I think then our language gets a bit distorted.
And then when you think about the definitions of acute trauma, single incident trauma, complex trauma in childhood-
... we use all of these words, and sometimes we're saying the same things, and sometimes we're describing very different events.
And so I'm excited, because I think the distinction in the language is really important.
And for some people, you'll probably listen today and go, "Oh my god, yes, of course." And it's kinda like, it might be an episode that just verifies that absolutely this is what, you know, you're seeing and this is how you've been practicing.
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