Jul 15, 2026 · 57 min · 12 segments
Text us to let us know what you want to hear on the podcast! In this episode, Jess and Jill sit down for part one of a controversial Q+A on women’s…
I coach business coaches with content, and they're talking about how they see people who are, like, very, like, aggressive and, like, you got to get your shit together and you're not following the plan.
And then people who are very, like... you know, even killed in the way that they present information.
And they're like, how do I know what's most effective? I'm like, well, the most effective thing is to be yourself.
The reason these people present so well in completely opposite ends of the spectrum is because they are being so authentically themselves.
Like I, I know other people in the space personally as humans in real life.
And I see the way they present content.
And I'm like, this is so performative and gross, but like, they're just trying to capture attention.
I, I get where you can really feel that.
Um, that's the podcast I sent you yesterday.
Uh, I never have followed this person before.
Um, but Chase Hughes is like, I think that's his name.
Is that his name? Uh, he's like, uh, he was in the Navy, but he's like a, a behavioralist neuroscientist guy.
Um, and that was what he was talking about was like the power of influence, uh, It's not just a confidence thing because a lot of people can fake confidence, but we sense what is real or what is authentic based on our life experience.
And if that person has some sort of dissonance internally where they're like, yeah, I'm going to fake confident.
But meanwhile, my life's falling apart and this is happening and that's happening.
People pick up on that and it feels yucky to us as consumers.
Yeah.
It actually has to come from a true place where you really did educate yourself to be able to speak on the thing.
And you really do have your own nervous system in check if you're telling other people how to regulate their nervous system where you truly do have balance because it reads when people are preaching balance and then they're fucking obsessed with like this little inch of fat on their thigh.
It's like, okay, well, that's not healthy either, right? Like, I feel like it's very easy.
I don't know.
For me, it's easy to read in other people.
So it's nice knowing that everybody in our team is coming from like a real place.
Well, it's funny, you and I went to, first of all, I've just thought about this.
I've never met a neuroscientist or anyone in that field that I don't like, which I find so interesting.
I coach business coaches with content, and they're talking about how they see people who are, like, very, like, aggressive and, like, you got to get your shit together and you're not following the plan.
And then people who are very, like... you know, even killed in the way that they present information.
And they're like, how do I know what's most effective? I'm like, well, the most effective thing is to be yourself.
The reason these people present so well in completely opposite ends of the spectrum is because they are being so authentically themselves.
Like I, I know other people in the space personally as humans in real life.
And I see the way they present content.
And I'm like, this is so performative and gross, but like, they're just trying to capture attention.
I, I get where you can really feel that.
Um, that's the podcast I sent you yesterday.
Uh, I never have followed this person before.
Um, but Chase Hughes is like, I think that's his name.
Is that his name? Uh, he's like, uh, he was in the Navy, but he's like a, a behavioralist neuroscientist guy.
Um, and that was what he was talking about was like the power of influence, uh, It's not just a confidence thing because a lot of people can fake confidence, but we sense what is real or what is authentic based on our life experience.
And if that person has some sort of dissonance internally where they're like, yeah, I'm going to fake confident.
But meanwhile, my life's falling apart and this is happening and that's happening.
People pick up on that and it feels yucky to us as consumers.
Yeah.
It actually has to come from a true place where you really did educate yourself to be able to speak on the thing.
And you really do have your own nervous system in check if you're telling other people how to regulate their nervous system where you truly do have balance because it reads when people are preaching balance and then they're fucking obsessed with like this little inch of fat on their thigh.
It's like, okay, well, that's not healthy either, right? Like, I feel like it's very easy.
I don't know.
For me, it's easy to read in other people.
So it's nice knowing that everybody in our team is coming from like a real place.
Well, it's funny, you and I went to, first of all, I've just thought about this.
I've never met a neuroscientist or anyone in that field that I don't like, which I find so interesting.
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