Jun 10, 2026 · 43 min · 13 segments
Today on Real Talk, Kristen sits with writer, interviewer, and Big Friendship co-author Aminatou Sow. They talk about the wide range of global influences that shape her style, the lasting impact of…
Aminatou SowGuest
Kristen NaimanHostHi.
How's it going?
Good.
Good, thanks.
I'm Zo, by the way.
Hi.
Nice to meet you.
I'm a new-ish mom.
I guess I'm 10 months postpartum now, and I used to spend quite a lot of time kind of getting ready.
It, it would bring me a lot of joy.
Um, I'm an architect and I, I really consciously would try to break the stereotype that architects only wear black.
Now I'm someone that has to take that time and dedicate it to getting someone else ready instead of myself, and I'm looking to kind of get back to effortlessly chic, but I'm realizing that there's nothing effortless about it.
So I'm just, I need tips and tricks and advice.
I'm like, how, how do I, like, leave the house and feel good about myself in the morning and not be covered in stains and crumbs?

Well, I have a, a follow-up question for you that's very practical, but, like, what are you doing now? What does it look like right now? Like, give us, like, the abbreviated sort of situation of the morning.
I, I...
When I have to get myself dressed, it is going to my closet, finding whatever is the most comfortable thing that I see first, and throwing it on.
It's, it's like I'm, I'm dedicating almost no time to it, to the point where I was leaving the house two days ago for a meeting and, um, my nanny was like, "Oh, you put on jeans.
Hi.
How's it going?
Good.
Good, thanks.
I'm Zo, by the way.
Hi.
Nice to meet you.
I'm a new-ish mom.
I guess I'm 10 months postpartum now, and I used to spend quite a lot of time kind of getting ready.
It, it would bring me a lot of joy.
Um, I'm an architect and I, I really consciously would try to break the stereotype that architects only wear black.
Now I'm someone that has to take that time and dedicate it to getting someone else ready instead of myself, and I'm looking to kind of get back to effortlessly chic, but I'm realizing that there's nothing effortless about it.
So I'm just, I need tips and tricks and advice.
I'm like, how, how do I, like, leave the house and feel good about myself in the morning and not be covered in stains and crumbs?

Well, I have a, a follow-up question for you that's very practical, but, like, what are you doing now? What does it look like right now? Like, give us, like, the abbreviated sort of situation of the morning.
I, I...
When I have to get myself dressed, it is going to my closet, finding whatever is the most comfortable thing that I see first, and throwing it on.
It's, it's like I'm, I'm dedicating almost no time to it, to the point where I was leaving the house two days ago for a meeting and, um, my nanny was like, "Oh, you put on jeans.
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