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So we spoke about something that is usable, but its primary use is something that's forbidden, and that is a light form of muxav with permissibility to move it, but without the ability to move it to protect itself from the environment or from being stolen.

And then we spoke about another... category of moksa, what we call moksa makmas gufay or etzem v'avanim, useless, or at least Shabbos useless items, and those things are forbidden even if you come up with a creative idea to use it for something else, and you're not allowed to handle it for the needs of its spot, its location as well.

Again, handling these things using your elbow would be permitted, but anyway, these are the two categories, and there's a lot of things that need clarification of what category it goes into.
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