Sep 30, 2026 · 1 hr 22 min · 9 segments
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Zak KaraGuest
Jaz GulatiHost
Honestly, I've been thinking so much about all the different plays and how you bring in patient stories, the importance of stepping back and looking at the structure.

How did the patient get to your chair and how important that is? The different ways that you make communication...

a real art form and you adapt it to that individual by finding out what their goal is, right? And so I loved everything we did last time.

Of all the, if we call each of those, I don't know if you want to call it techniques or thought processes or plays or whatever you want to call it, which of those, they're all in a way levers, right? A lever is something that you can really get leverage.

So if you call all those levers, all the wonderful things that we discussed in the last episode, about being comprehensive and making the patient feel that what you're telling them is their own thought, is their own, they're taking ownership of the problem, like you said, right? But which of those things that we discussed last time for you is the biggest lever?

The greatest lever you can pull, I would say, is to take the opportunity, having listened to that episode, to think deeply about what's going on in your own life, the context of your own life, the context of your own career, what kind of practice you're in, and therefore think that...

I'm hoping that you picked up one massive important thing, which is that it can be that you learn the prompt, the choreography, the script.

But in actual fact, in that one entity, that one single moment, you'll start to learn over time, if you haven't already, that That what's going on in the room with how you lead the dental nurse or dental assistant you work alongside, what's going on within the wider clinic itself, the structure and the day flow, the fact that you had a morning meeting and huddled within the team.

So everyone's congruence makes this congruent within the direction of your day to day.

Do you kind of get where I'm coming from? Because we talked to some extent, didn't we, about how the ladder of readiness means that the people landing in your chair are the kind of people that you want to be able to treat so that you get to a point where you're doing great dentistry for people that you love to be around.

And that's the joy of it, isn't it? So I would say the greatest lever to pull is to, yes, implement those individual things.

Like, for example, we talked about the fact that you take goals, not symptom histories.

That's a really key skill that perfuses through all of it, but it's pointless within the structure of the conditions that aren't working.

Well, for me, I mean, I agree with all that, but for me, the biggest lever that I took away and it's something I've experienced because I've got enough experience and I've got enough of a niche now that when patients come and fly transatlantic, not that I'm encouraging this behavior anymore, they come and see me, it's because there's already a reputation, right? And when someone gets referred to you, they're already like so warm to you.

And so the way you alluded to that in the previous podcast was what is the messaging of your... not only of your website, as an associate, you may not be in control of that, but patients will Google you, right? And I don't know if you believe that, right? That patients Google their dentist are going to see you.

Honestly, I've been thinking so much about all the different plays and how you bring in patient stories, the importance of stepping back and looking at the structure.

How did the patient get to your chair and how important that is? The different ways that you make communication...

a real art form and you adapt it to that individual by finding out what their goal is, right? And so I loved everything we did last time.

Of all the, if we call each of those, I don't know if you want to call it techniques or thought processes or plays or whatever you want to call it, which of those, they're all in a way levers, right? A lever is something that you can really get leverage.

So if you call all those levers, all the wonderful things that we discussed in the last episode, about being comprehensive and making the patient feel that what you're telling them is their own thought, is their own, they're taking ownership of the problem, like you said, right? But which of those things that we discussed last time for you is the biggest lever?

The greatest lever you can pull, I would say, is to take the opportunity, having listened to that episode, to think deeply about what's going on in your own life, the context of your own life, the context of your own career, what kind of practice you're in, and therefore think that...

I'm hoping that you picked up one massive important thing, which is that it can be that you learn the prompt, the choreography, the script.

But in actual fact, in that one entity, that one single moment, you'll start to learn over time, if you haven't already, that That what's going on in the room with how you lead the dental nurse or dental assistant you work alongside, what's going on within the wider clinic itself, the structure and the day flow, the fact that you had a morning meeting and huddled within the team.

So everyone's congruence makes this congruent within the direction of your day to day.

Do you kind of get where I'm coming from? Because we talked to some extent, didn't we, about how the ladder of readiness means that the people landing in your chair are the kind of people that you want to be able to treat so that you get to a point where you're doing great dentistry for people that you love to be around.

And that's the joy of it, isn't it? So I would say the greatest lever to pull is to, yes, implement those individual things.

Like, for example, we talked about the fact that you take goals, not symptom histories.

That's a really key skill that perfuses through all of it, but it's pointless within the structure of the conditions that aren't working.

Well, for me, I mean, I agree with all that, but for me, the biggest lever that I took away and it's something I've experienced because I've got enough experience and I've got enough of a niche now that when patients come and fly transatlantic, not that I'm encouraging this behavior anymore, they come and see me, it's because there's already a reputation, right? And when someone gets referred to you, they're already like so warm to you.

And so the way you alluded to that in the previous podcast was what is the messaging of your... not only of your website, as an associate, you may not be in control of that, but patients will Google you, right? And I don't know if you believe that, right? That patients Google their dentist are going to see you.
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