Oct 1, 2026 · 1 hr 39 min · 18 segments
**GUEST:** Christina Wallace is a Harvard Business School faculty member, entrepreneur, author and Broadway producer who has built a career across business, technology and the arts. Her own journey…
Christina WallaceGuest
Deepak JayaramanHost
When you say Venn diagram, can you talk a little bit about how we should think about the circles? Are the circles skills? Are the circles interests? Are they something else? In the book, you sort of lay out the different frames with which you can think about the circles of the Venn diagram, but I'd love for you to talk a little bit about how each one of us can construct our own Venn diagram.

The idea of the Venn diagram is really rooted in the ability to define yourself, to craft your identity separate from your current job title.

Certainly here in the U.S., we really closely build an identity to our jobs.

And certainly the higher you go up, the more successful you are as a leader.

And that's really dangerous in a world that is changing this much because you could lose your identity.

So really emphasizing the opportunity to build an identity separate from your current chapter of your profession, but also to remind yourself that you are more than just what you do right now.

So many of us have all these different interests and skill sets and perspectives that that give us a unique mix of how we see the world.

That when you step into a room or you join a team, even if you have the same education as someone else, even if you came from the same town as someone else, you, by definition, are going to see the world differently and you're going to add something differently.

in my own definition, thinking about industries, right? So I described my career at the intersection of business technology and the arts, but it quickly became clear that that wasn't the only way you could define your circles.

There are other elements around skills like storytelling, right? Storytelling is absolutely one of my circles, and that shows up in my writing.

I think very deeply about coaching through storytelling, getting people to find their own story and discover the truths about themselves.

I then worked in the nonprofit arts world where there was never enough money.

And so my approach to anything is going to be informed by the fact that I know how to make magic out of seven dollars and a roll of duct tape.

When you say Venn diagram, can you talk a little bit about how we should think about the circles? Are the circles skills? Are the circles interests? Are they something else? In the book, you sort of lay out the different frames with which you can think about the circles of the Venn diagram, but I'd love for you to talk a little bit about how each one of us can construct our own Venn diagram.

The idea of the Venn diagram is really rooted in the ability to define yourself, to craft your identity separate from your current job title.

Certainly here in the U.S., we really closely build an identity to our jobs.

And certainly the higher you go up, the more successful you are as a leader.

And that's really dangerous in a world that is changing this much because you could lose your identity.

So really emphasizing the opportunity to build an identity separate from your current chapter of your profession, but also to remind yourself that you are more than just what you do right now.

So many of us have all these different interests and skill sets and perspectives that that give us a unique mix of how we see the world.

That when you step into a room or you join a team, even if you have the same education as someone else, even if you came from the same town as someone else, you, by definition, are going to see the world differently and you're going to add something differently.

in my own definition, thinking about industries, right? So I described my career at the intersection of business technology and the arts, but it quickly became clear that that wasn't the only way you could define your circles.

There are other elements around skills like storytelling, right? Storytelling is absolutely one of my circles, and that shows up in my writing.

I think very deeply about coaching through storytelling, getting people to find their own story and discover the truths about themselves.

I then worked in the nonprofit arts world where there was never enough money.

And so my approach to anything is going to be informed by the fact that I know how to make magic out of seven dollars and a roll of duct tape.
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