When Did Rage Start Sounding Like Joy?

Yeah, so a few things came up.

I realized we were having this conversation and I had this like visceral reaction, negative reaction to it.

I feel like calling kind of anyone aggressive or like a band but especially a woman or like a female band aggressive is putting the emphasis on the listener's reaction rather than the performer the writer the singers like motive for creating the music they're creating so I thought, do we call male bands aggressive? Yeah, we probably do.

But I do think it just feels like we're using that word because maybe the listener finds it that way.

But instead, I feel like there are a lot of other words that we could use to describe some of the bands that we're going to talk about today, like unapologetic.

Angry, sure.

Like there are some songs that are clearly like angry sounding.

Rage.

Rage filled.

Yeah.

So like that then I think puts the emphasis on the person who's performing and maybe like their intention.

Rather than our reaction, because I think like I could hear a song and I could think like, oh, that sounds really aggressive.

But somebody else might feel inspired when they hear that song and they don't hear they don't hear aggression.

They might hear anger.

Yeah.

um and almost like call to action

and

so um yeah we so we ended up going down this like whole rabbit hole about this like back and forth um and then I at one point I was like this like really like it got to me and I wonder does anyone else out there feel that way I don't know

so you asked me like would you refer to a band of all men as being aggressive and I was I thought about it I feel like I could.

And so there's a distinction here that has kind of come up after this.

Is there a gender difference in the way we talk about aggression with men versus women? And so the question is, do you refer to aggression the same way when you see it in an all-male band differently? And I think there are some bands that are all-male, like Rage Against the Machine, a band that I'm very familiar with, who I would say, yeah, that's an aggressive band.

I think politically...

They are trying to be very aggressive about how they present their message.

It comes through in their diction and the tone of the music and all that.

And I would say the music in that case is aggressive.

Yeah, so a few things came up.

I realized we were having this conversation and I had this like visceral reaction, negative reaction to it.

I feel like calling kind of anyone aggressive or like a band but especially a woman or like a female band aggressive is putting the emphasis on the listener's reaction rather than the performer the writer the singers like motive for creating the music they're creating so I thought, do we call male bands aggressive? Yeah, we probably do.

But I do think it just feels like we're using that word because maybe the listener finds it that way.

But instead, I feel like there are a lot of other words that we could use to describe some of the bands that we're going to talk about today, like unapologetic.

Angry, sure.

Like there are some songs that are clearly like angry sounding.

Rage.

Rage filled.

Yeah.

So like that then I think puts the emphasis on the person who's performing and maybe like their intention.

Rather than our reaction, because I think like I could hear a song and I could think like, oh, that sounds really aggressive.

But somebody else might feel inspired when they hear that song and they don't hear they don't hear aggression.

They might hear anger.

Yeah.

um and almost like call to action

and

so um yeah we so we ended up going down this like whole rabbit hole about this like back and forth um and then I at one point I was like this like really like it got to me and I wonder does anyone else out there feel that way I don't know

so you asked me like would you refer to a band of all men as being aggressive and I was I thought about it I feel like I could.

And so there's a distinction here that has kind of come up after this.

Is there a gender difference in the way we talk about aggression with men versus women? And so the question is, do you refer to aggression the same way when you see it in an all-male band differently? And I think there are some bands that are all-male, like Rage Against the Machine, a band that I'm very familiar with, who I would say, yeah, that's an aggressive band.

I think politically...

They are trying to be very aggressive about how they present their message.

It comes through in their diction and the tone of the music and all that.

And I would say the music in that case is aggressive.