Jun 8, 2026 · 1 hr 1 min · 12 segments
For the past five years many Australians have focused on protecting themselves from a system they no longer trust. But what if the next chapter isn’t about resistance? What if it’s about creation?…
Trent ChapmanGuestYeah, because look, last time, I think, you know, quite understandably, we've been in protection mode, in defensive mode, as you say, for a long time.
And we've questioned education and the health system and the media and the government, big pharma, and our entire culture seems to have shifted on its axis in terms of what we trust and care, you know, and government.
I mean, how much of the government do we trust nowadays? And the more, I guess, you know, a lot of people say they're awake and there's a lot of commentary in fighting the system.
I think, and I know you do too, it's now time to be really building the future we want.
And that's, I think, the discussion we're going to have today in terms of particularly your experience around this, around how you structure yourself to create that legacy in terms of, you know, your companies and financials and so on.
So let's, I'm going to throw this to you, but you know, we're going from what are we fighting to what are we building? Is that fair call?

Is that where we're going to go with this today? Mate, I think that's a fair call, Gibbo.

And probably a good place to start maybe for today, Gibbo, could be, you know, how do people really move from fighting the system, I guess, to building something which is lawful, you know, peaceful and effective.

Because I believe that's probably where the conversation really needs to start.

I know last time that we had a chat, I had a chat with the Parents With Questions community.

They were questioning education, health, money, government, social media, systems, all the things that you just mentioned.

So exactly what you're saying, mate, at some point, the question has got to come from What are we fighting to what are we building? And this is where I think that maturity really comes into this space, Gibbo, because there are a lot of good people in these communities, in particular your community.

They're definitely not bad people, mate, and they're certainly not crazy people.
Yeah, because look, last time, I think, you know, quite understandably, we've been in protection mode, in defensive mode, as you say, for a long time.
And we've questioned education and the health system and the media and the government, big pharma, and our entire culture seems to have shifted on its axis in terms of what we trust and care, you know, and government.
I mean, how much of the government do we trust nowadays? And the more, I guess, you know, a lot of people say they're awake and there's a lot of commentary in fighting the system.
I think, and I know you do too, it's now time to be really building the future we want.
And that's, I think, the discussion we're going to have today in terms of particularly your experience around this, around how you structure yourself to create that legacy in terms of, you know, your companies and financials and so on.
So let's, I'm going to throw this to you, but you know, we're going from what are we fighting to what are we building? Is that fair call?

Is that where we're going to go with this today? Mate, I think that's a fair call, Gibbo.

And probably a good place to start maybe for today, Gibbo, could be, you know, how do people really move from fighting the system, I guess, to building something which is lawful, you know, peaceful and effective.

Because I believe that's probably where the conversation really needs to start.

I know last time that we had a chat, I had a chat with the Parents With Questions community.

They were questioning education, health, money, government, social media, systems, all the things that you just mentioned.

So exactly what you're saying, mate, at some point, the question has got to come from What are we fighting to what are we building? And this is where I think that maturity really comes into this space, Gibbo, because there are a lot of good people in these communities, in particular your community.

They're definitely not bad people, mate, and they're certainly not crazy people.
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