He Ran the Numbers on His "Stable" Career. Then He Left.

I'm beta with six users.

Now learned a lot about why it sucks and how to make it better working through the friction of onboarding.

There was so many parts of vulnerable exposure during this journey, but yeah, It's my passion right now, and I think owner-operators need leverage.

Leverage is the most valuable around AI right now.

Building aggressively in that space is my passion.

I love it, man.

Thank you for retracing all that.

I know it's a lot, but there's a reason that you're qualified to be doing what you're doing now, creating AI agents for this specific context, because you've actually worked in all these different verticals within real estate, right? There's a lot of people trying to bring AI products to life, but some of them are doing it so without having that grounded experience.

So I think it's a really interesting thing that you've chosen to focus on now, especially having known you for the last few years as you've kind of like progress through these different chapters of your career.

But going back to the earlier part of what you were saying, a lot of it boiled down to awareness, right? You were coming to these different kind of stages of awareness about what it really means to be an employee, what it really means to be self-employed, even not necessarily the textbook definitions of those things, but what does it feel like to know that, okay, there's a ceiling on where I can really go in the trades.

And then you flip the script entirely and And you went to a business like being an agent in which you can eat what you kill, if you will, where you are directly incentivized by your performance.

And you are by definition and getting to know you as long as I have a high performer.

So if you're a high performer and you have those tendencies, you have discipline and you have awareness.

You can turn that into whatever you want it to be as long as you're designing around the life you want to live.

So I really applaud and admire.

You mentioned, of course, like children, they come.

You know, there's never a perfect moment to have children.

It always changes things in a major way.

You hear that.

It sounds almost like a cliche.

But at the same time, when kids come along, it changes your math.

It changes your constraints.

And so you've just, I think, done a very good job of fluidly evolving kids.

to meet your circumstances and meet your goals.

And that's kind of when I hear you retrace your story like that.