Jun 3, 2026 · 1 hr 25 min · 10 segments
**Outside the Vacuum** is a climbing performance podcast brought to you by the team at Climb Strong. Hosted by Climb Strong coach Carter Smith, each monthly episode brings together CS coaches and…
Alex BridgewaterGuestCarter SmithHost
I would like to start this conversation with a left turn, and we'll come back around and connect it.
Um, one of the questions you asked me was to come to this with a piece of media, and I chose to come...
You suggested like an album or a movie or a book or something like that, and uh, I chose, and, to do it with an album.
And [clears throat] a couple weeks ago, my partner and I were talking about, she's super into music, and like in a way that like I don't even understand, like, uh, on like an intellectual level.
Like she's so into just like history and me- meaning behind lyrics and like just like what it- certain things mean for society and socially and like how these sorts of lyrics and the fads of like pop music or whatever, those trends, what they implicate for like society as a whole.
I, I sim- I really just like sound and lyrics, and the intersection of those two things is important to me.
I have close friends and know of people who only listen to lyrics and very, like quietly hear the instrumentals, and then I have people who only listen to the instrumentals and don't even-- they have to deliberately decide to hear, to like look at the lyrics, and even then they have to decide to care to read them at all.
Otherwise, they're just listening for the sound of the music, of the instrumentals.
And so all that is to say is that we were talking about music in this way, and she had a great question, which is, "Do you have an album that is a no-skip album for you? Do you know of a no-skip album for you?" And so when you asked me about, you know, coming to this with some, some piece of music, maybe an album, I was like, "Ooh, you know what'd be sick, is to list out what, off the top of my head, what no-skip albums I have." Because also that's so much less normal these days, which is why she brought it up in the first place, is like, you know, these days we're all listening to Spotify.
Like, you know, it's like algorithm-based whatever, and less and less people are listening to full albums start to finish, and the experience that that is in and of itself and like the purpose- the purposeful nature of creating an album from the artist's side.
Um, one of them was a My Chemical Romance album for two- from 2004, a Used album from 2004, which is weird when I put that together.
But the one I wanted to choose was Group Therapy of Ab- Above & Beyond, Live from Hong Kong 300.
If you haven't listened to it, if you enjoy music like that, you should give it a try, 'cause both sound, melody sound, instrumentals, beat, mixed with the lyrics, it's like...
I would like to start this conversation with a left turn, and we'll come back around and connect it.
Um, one of the questions you asked me was to come to this with a piece of media, and I chose to come...
You suggested like an album or a movie or a book or something like that, and uh, I chose, and, to do it with an album.
And [clears throat] a couple weeks ago, my partner and I were talking about, she's super into music, and like in a way that like I don't even understand, like, uh, on like an intellectual level.
Like she's so into just like history and me- meaning behind lyrics and like just like what it- certain things mean for society and socially and like how these sorts of lyrics and the fads of like pop music or whatever, those trends, what they implicate for like society as a whole.
I, I sim- I really just like sound and lyrics, and the intersection of those two things is important to me.
I have close friends and know of people who only listen to lyrics and very, like quietly hear the instrumentals, and then I have people who only listen to the instrumentals and don't even-- they have to deliberately decide to hear, to like look at the lyrics, and even then they have to decide to care to read them at all.
Otherwise, they're just listening for the sound of the music, of the instrumentals.
And so all that is to say is that we were talking about music in this way, and she had a great question, which is, "Do you have an album that is a no-skip album for you? Do you know of a no-skip album for you?" And so when you asked me about, you know, coming to this with some, some piece of music, maybe an album, I was like, "Ooh, you know what'd be sick, is to list out what, off the top of my head, what no-skip albums I have." Because also that's so much less normal these days, which is why she brought it up in the first place, is like, you know, these days we're all listening to Spotify.
Like, you know, it's like algorithm-based whatever, and less and less people are listening to full albums start to finish, and the experience that that is in and of itself and like the purpose- the purposeful nature of creating an album from the artist's side.
Um, one of them was a My Chemical Romance album for two- from 2004, a Used album from 2004, which is weird when I put that together.
But the one I wanted to choose was Group Therapy of Ab- Above & Beyond, Live from Hong Kong 300.
If you haven't listened to it, if you enjoy music like that, you should give it a try, 'cause both sound, melody sound, instrumentals, beat, mixed with the lyrics, it's like...
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