No Time But Now with William Shatner and Melanie Shatner Gretsch
Sep 23, 2026 · 56 min · 16 segments
For more than four decades, Dr. Azra Raza has pursued a radical idea at the heart of her acclaimed book *The First Cell*: What if, instead of chasing cancer to its last cell, we could stop it at the…
Azra RazaGuest
William ShatnerHost
Melanie Shatner GretschHost
You see, the little I know, and because people think I know what I'm talking about and I really don't, But I keep saying, because these are the facts, that science is on the lip, on the very lip of incredible advances in medicine and discovery.
Both Melanie and I had cancer, and we went through extensive infusion and illness.
To me, you had one of the massive, incredible advancements with immunotherapy, which I loved.
I had the slash burn and poison that Dr. Raza talks about in her book.
These explosions are going on around us of discoveries of all kinds in all kinds of ways.
Dr. Raza, having read your book, you know, and at some point it's really painful.
Well, she's a poet and she speaks so emotionally, eloquently and intensely and without holding back that the treatments that I had and I think would even classify yours as barbaric in the way that it takes such a toll on your body.
You see, the little I know, and because people think I know what I'm talking about and I really don't, But I keep saying, because these are the facts, that science is on the lip, on the very lip of incredible advances in medicine and discovery.
Both Melanie and I had cancer, and we went through extensive infusion and illness.
To me, you had one of the massive, incredible advancements with immunotherapy, which I loved.
I had the slash burn and poison that Dr. Raza talks about in her book.
These explosions are going on around us of discoveries of all kinds in all kinds of ways.
Dr. Raza, having read your book, you know, and at some point it's really painful.
Well, she's a poet and she speaks so emotionally, eloquently and intensely and without holding back that the treatments that I had and I think would even classify yours as barbaric in the way that it takes such a toll on your body.
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