Jun 24, 2026 · 1 hr 39 min · 13 segments
Part two of our deep dive into EBSA for neurodivergent children is essential listening for anyone navigating the school avoidance minefield as a parent or carer of a neurodivergent child - whether…
Heidi MavirGuestMark AllenHostWhat's the topic of the week? Our last episode, we focused on defining EBSA and all the other terms it's otherwise known as, including why some of those terms are more problematic than others.
Um, so for the record, we're gonna be using barriers to attendance as our go-to term for that.
This episode, we're gonna be focusing more on the impact on the parents, because that is not insignificant in all of this, and I think it's worth discussing that, and also what we can do if our kids are experiencing barriers to attendance.
One of the things that I, I really wanted to kind of, uh, shine a light on is the parental blame that-
Yeah, that's huge, and it's so f- infuriating because one of the reasons that we kind of persist with it when if there wasn't that blame, we might go, "You know what? Let's just have a duvet day," you know?

So we have got, in my book, don't know if you mentioned I wrote a book, um, when we reissued [laughs] the new edition, there is a section on...

So, um, there's a piece of re- there's a piece of research that's, like, re-listed in the book, specifically around parent blame and pathological demand avoidance.

There's a, a piece of writing from a parent called Megan Robertson around the parent blame experience, because it is huge for us-
What's the topic of the week? Our last episode, we focused on defining EBSA and all the other terms it's otherwise known as, including why some of those terms are more problematic than others.
Um, so for the record, we're gonna be using barriers to attendance as our go-to term for that.
This episode, we're gonna be focusing more on the impact on the parents, because that is not insignificant in all of this, and I think it's worth discussing that, and also what we can do if our kids are experiencing barriers to attendance.
One of the things that I, I really wanted to kind of, uh, shine a light on is the parental blame that-
Yeah, that's huge, and it's so f- infuriating because one of the reasons that we kind of persist with it when if there wasn't that blame, we might go, "You know what? Let's just have a duvet day," you know?

So we have got, in my book, don't know if you mentioned I wrote a book, um, when we reissued [laughs] the new edition, there is a section on...

So, um, there's a piece of re- there's a piece of research that's, like, re-listed in the book, specifically around parent blame and pathological demand avoidance.

There's a, a piece of writing from a parent called Megan Robertson around the parent blame experience, because it is huge for us-
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