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Morally Corrupt

Goodbye ‘Summer House,’ Hello ‘In the City.' Plus, a Tiny ‘The Valley’ Recap.

May 22, 2026 · 1 hr 10 min · 12 segments

Rachel and Callie break down the ‘Summer House’ finale, from Kyle desperately chasing Amanda around one last party, to Ciara giving Amanda the tough-love intervention she probably needed three summers ago. Plus: Lindsay and Carl somehow achieve the impossible … a normal conversation? Then it’s straight into Bravo’s newest chaos, ‘In The City,’ where Kyle and Amanda’s breakup timeline gets messier, Danielle may or may not have committed the most diabolical post-breakup crime imaginable, and everyone in Manhattan is either moving in too fast, having a baby, or denying rumors. They also recap ‘The Valley’ in approximately 14 seconds because Danny remains exhausting.Host: Rachel LindsayGuest: Callie CurryProducer: Belle RomanEditor: Jon RoemerSocial Producer: Sasha Ashall, Richard TinocoTheme Song: Devon RenaldoSource for all photos: Getty ImagesShop for Activia near you at www.activia.us.comSix all new McCafé drinks are here. Now at McDonald’s. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Speakers: Rachel LindsayHostCallie CurryHost

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Welcome & Episode Preview0:00 – 1:40

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Callie CurryHost0:00

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Callie CurryHost0:14

'Cause I don't wanna be a part of this.

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Rachel LindsayHost0:16

Close your legs to married men, trash fox.

Rachel LindsayHost0:20

I'll tell you how I'm doing.

Rachel LindsayHost0:21

Not well, bitch.

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Rachel LindsayHost0:26

Welcome to Morally Corrupt.

Rachel LindsayHost0:28

I am Rachel Lindsay.

Rachel LindsayHost0:29

She is Callie Curry.

Rachel LindsayHost0:30

Callie, let's get into it.

Rachel LindsayHost0:31

We don't have any time to waste.

Rachel LindsayHost0:33

We got the Summer House finale.

Rachel LindsayHost0:35

We got the premiere of In the City, and The Valley.

Rachel LindsayHost0:41

We'll, we'll see what we get to, 'cause we got a lot to cover.

Rachel LindsayHost0:44

Um, okay.

Rachel LindsayHost0:47

We've seen a lot come out with the previews for the reunion, and I think that most people would love to skip the finale and just go straight to it.

Rachel LindsayHost0:56

But the finale gave us some things, some things that I hope that are thoroughly discussed at the reunion, and a lot of that centers around the lies they tell.

Rachel LindsayHost1:07

Mandy and West, the lies that both of them go out of their way...

Rachel LindsayHost1:14

And I can't necessarily say, 'cause of what I said last week, that they were doing it for the purposes of each other or if that's just who they are as people.

Rachel LindsayHost1:22

The way we see West telling Ben one thing or somebody else in the house one thing, and then being a completely different way with Ciara.

Rachel LindsayHost1:30

The conversation we see Amanda having with Kyle at the very end, even the way that she just avoids Kyle all week.

Rachel LindsayHost1:37

It's...

Rachel LindsayHost1:37

I mean, the weekend.

Rachel LindsayHost1:39

So much to get into.

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Summer House Finale – Kyle & Amanda Meltdown2:52 – 27:16

Rachel LindsayHost2:52

Callie, I'll give you the honors.

Rachel LindsayHost2:55

Where do you wanna start?

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Callie CurryHost2:58

We can start with Kyle and Amanda, because we're gonna have to talk about them again and again and again-

Rachel LindsayHost3:05

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost3:05

... and again and again on In the City.

Rachel LindsayHost3:08

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost3:08

It's just a whole-

Rachel LindsayHost3:09

They really fucked it up

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Callie CurryHost3:10

... two-hour special.

Rachel LindsayHost3:11

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost3:11

Two-hour special of Kyle and Amanda.

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Callie CurryHost3:14

Um, and I didn't mind getting even more Kyle on Watch What Happens Live.

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Callie CurryHost3:20

Like, Kyle solo, I'm, I'm fine.

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Callie CurryHost3:22

I'm in.

Rachel LindsayHost3:23

Mm-hmm.

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Callie CurryHost3:23

The two of them, enough.

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Callie CurryHost3:26

Enough.

Rachel LindsayHost3:26

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost3:28

They should've started In the City at divorce or separation.

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Callie CurryHost3:32

I don't know if they're divorced, whatever.

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Callie CurryHost3:34

To have to watch it deteriorate more, deteriorate...

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Callie CurryHost3:38

Deteriorate? Why does that sound weird? More-

Rachel LindsayHost3:41

You're right

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Callie CurryHost3:42

... for another 12 episodes, like 24 episodes of deterioration.

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Callie CurryHost3:49

Is that a word? [laughs]

Rachel LindsayHost3:50

I'm going with it.

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Callie CurryHost3:51

Like, I don't need it.

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Callie CurryHost3:53

I don't need it.

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Callie CurryHost3:54

They hated each other eight weeks ago.

Rachel LindsayHost3:57

Well, she-

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Callie CurryHost3:57

Shit, four years ago

Rachel LindsayHost3:58

... she hates him, and I don't believe any of it anymore by the end of this episode because of the lies she tells on the steps, and how she w- This, these are the beginnings of throwing Ciara under the bus, by the way.

Rachel LindsayHost4:13

Because we see her do that as they're sitting on those steps.

Rachel LindsayHost4:16

But Kyle didn't know it, but they were separated the moment they left that house.

Rachel LindsayHost4:23

[laughs] Everybody saw it except for Kyle.

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Callie CurryHost4:24

I think they were separated before that, but yes.

Rachel LindsayHost4:28

Everybody got it except for Kyle.

Rachel LindsayHost4:30

Um, okay, so we s- at the ski party, which did...

Rachel LindsayHost4:35

I mean, the apres party, which looked really fun, and I kept wondering-

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Callie CurryHost4:39

Yeah, it did

Rachel LindsayHost4:40

... how are they in these jackets in the heat of the summer? Like, I know it's hot and humid in the Hamptons in September.

Rachel LindsayHost4:48

How are they in these coats? I just kept s- and nobody looked like they were sweating.

Rachel LindsayHost4:53

Nobody was breaking a sweat.

Rachel LindsayHost4:54

Maybe it was just cold that weekend, I don't know.

Rachel LindsayHost4:56

That just kept...

Rachel LindsayHost4:57

That was bothering me.

Rachel LindsayHost4:58

I just kept saying, [laughs] I know that they are dying of heat.

Rachel LindsayHost5:01

I know that they're hot.

Rachel LindsayHost5:03

Going back to the apres, before we get to 6:00 AM, to the late night, the late night activities, I think I'm just...

Rachel LindsayHost5:12

I know that this group has such a closeness, and you really see it in this episode.

Rachel LindsayHost5:16

It's, it's like everybody knows that this is the last summer like this.

Rachel LindsayHost5:20

And I wonder, before it all came out-

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Callie CurryHost5:22

Why do they know that, though?

Rachel LindsayHost5:24

Because everybody knows that Kyle and Amanda are moving towards divorce.

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Callie CurryHost5:28

Kyle and Amanda.

Rachel LindsayHost5:29

That's what I had to say to myself.

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Callie CurryHost5:30

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost5:30

I'm like, "Wow, this is really crazy," but everybody knows that they are moving, and it, the summer will never look the same.

Rachel LindsayHost5:37

And they didn't know.

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Callie CurryHost5:37

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost5:37

They knew that they hated each...

Rachel LindsayHost5:38

Well, that there's, there was so much resentment and b- and negativity and bad energy between the two of them-

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Callie CurryHost5:44

Yeah

Rachel LindsayHost5:44

... that they didn't know what kind of divorce that they would have.

Rachel LindsayHost5:47

Um, so I had to say, like, that's why everybody was crying like that, because...

Rachel LindsayHost5:52

Not everybody, but they just knew it wouldn't be the same.

Rachel LindsayHost5:55

That's what I felt like.

Rachel LindsayHost5:57

Um, but I have to say, I do get tired-Of everybody butting in the business [laughs] at times.

Rachel LindsayHost6:05

When Kyle and Sierra were talking, I just was like, "I don't wanna see this." I don't wanna see another friend having a conversation for Amanda.

Rachel LindsayHost6:14

I don't wanna see Kyle talking to somebody who's not Amanda.

Rachel LindsayHost6:17

If it's not Amanda and Kyle, we just gotta let it go.

Rachel LindsayHost6:20

I just, I, I think I'm so over, and I don't have to be...

Rachel LindsayHost6:23

I mean, now it's over.

Rachel LindsayHost6:24

It really is over.

Rachel LindsayHost6:26

But I think I'm just, watching this, I'm over everyone inserting themselves into their relationship.

Rachel LindsayHost6:33

A- and this, this probably isn't true, but I do wonder what their relationship would be like if they actually kept it private from all of their friends.

Rachel LindsayHost6:44

There's so much input from everybody else, and I just wonder, Kyle would still be Kyle running around late night, an occasional making out [laughs] with a random person.

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Callie CurryHost6:55

Why do you wonder?

Rachel LindsayHost6:57

I just won- Amanda-

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Callie CurryHost6:59

We got, we have Danny, we have Danny and Nia.

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Callie CurryHost7:01

So there's two, there's two versions of this.

Rachel LindsayHost7:04

Uh-huh.

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Callie CurryHost7:04

There's the version where you tell everyone everything, and then there's the version where you hide everything from everyone.

Rachel LindsayHost7:09

Right, and it spills out.

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Callie CurryHost7:10

Make sure you're not mic'd.

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Callie CurryHost7:11

Why are you talking about this on camera?

Rachel LindsayHost7:13

Right.

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Callie CurryHost7:15

There has to be the happy mediums, where we get a little bit, but not e- not enough.

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Callie CurryHost7:20

We, they share a little bit, but not everything.

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Callie CurryHost7:23

These are two, like, polar opposite relationships that are both horrible, but one we know every detail, and one we're making up what we think it looks like.

Rachel LindsayHost7:32

Mm-hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost7:34

I g-

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Callie CurryHost7:35

I agree with you.

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Callie CurryHost7:36

It's tiring, but it must have been just the absolute worst vibes.

Rachel LindsayHost7:42

Sure.

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Callie CurryHost7:43

'Cause whenever someone is around one of th- one of them, it comes up.

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Callie CurryHost7:48

Like, immediately people are like, "How are you doing?" Like, that one weekend where Amanda wasn't there and Kyle was just like, "I just, I don't wanna talk about it, I don't wanna talk about it." Like, that's, that's the first thing people wanna say.

Rachel LindsayHost8:00

Yeah, I think-

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Callie CurryHost8:00

So-

Rachel LindsayHost8:01

I, I-

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Callie CurryHost8:01

...

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Callie CurryHost8:01

they feel something.

Rachel LindsayHost8:03

No, no, no, no. It's, it's there.

Rachel LindsayHost8:05

I'm not saying it's not there.

Rachel LindsayHost8:06

I just, Amanda's somebody, as we see, is very easily influenced, and I wonder what their relationship could've been.

Rachel LindsayHost8:15

Could it have been better? Maybe would they have gone to therapy? Since they're not talking to everybody else, would they have gone to therapy? Would, would it have gone longer and then eventually failed? I just don't...

Rachel LindsayHost8:24

I just wonder.

Rachel LindsayHost8:25

It was just a thought that crossed my mind, because so many people have their hands in it.

Rachel LindsayHost8:29

And that does start to...

Rachel LindsayHost8:30

Like, the more you open up people into your marriage, that does start to have, to have an effect on you, and I guess maybe I know that from seeing mine deteriorate.

Rachel LindsayHost8:39

But it does start to, like, play with your mind.

Rachel LindsayHost8:42

And the other thing I thought, too, is Amanda, I don't think ever would've left Kyle if she didn't start liking somebody else.

Rachel LindsayHost8:53

Does this mean that they were-

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Callie CurryHost8:55

Agreed

Rachel LindsayHost8:55

... physical? M- you know, I say no.

Rachel LindsayHost8:59

Maybe, maybe not.

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Callie CurryHost9:00

Mm, I'm not sure.

Rachel LindsayHost9:00

But if Amanda had not, if Amanda had not latched on to somebody else emotionally, I think she would not have had the courage to leave Kyle.

Rachel LindsayHost9:10

The energy-

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Callie CurryHost9:10

Agreed

Rachel LindsayHost9:10

... that we see her give in In The City, which we'll talk about, I think is because she was being...

Rachel LindsayHost9:17

I don't know if she was being emboldened, but she felt big because there was somebody else-

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Callie CurryHost9:21

She had someone else

Rachel LindsayHost9:22

...

Rachel LindsayHost9:22

in her life, and that's just Amanda.

Rachel LindsayHost9:25

I, I saw something on a Reddit where it was like, "Did Amanda come from money? Has Amanda b- like, lived a spoiled life?" And I don't know if it's true or not, but it was being litigated in this, um, s- a subreddit.

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Callie CurryHost9:38

Reddit thread?

Rachel LindsayHost9:38

And they were kind of saying that it was, her dad had a really good job, and then her grandfather had an even better job.

Rachel LindsayHost9:45

And I guess there's a trust, a trust fund, but tru- trust funds can vary, so who knows? But it does seem like there was this, that she was kind of spoiled and didn't have to, like, work hard.

Rachel LindsayHost9:56

She could latch onto one thing after another.

Rachel LindsayHost9:58

And so go- Amanda didn't all of a sudden become Miss Independent.

Rachel LindsayHost10:04

She latched onto somebody else, emotionally, physically, both.

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Callie CurryHost10:06

It's not like she's ever been independent in her life.

Rachel LindsayHost10:09

Mm-mm.

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Callie CurryHost10:09

Ever.

Rachel LindsayHost10:10

Which is why she's lazy.

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Callie CurryHost10:10

And I did see the Reddit thread, and apparently she, like, her family is, like, upper middle class.

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Callie CurryHost10:19

Like, they did well.

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Callie CurryHost10:20

They didn't have to worry about bills.

Rachel LindsayHost10:23

Mm-hmm.

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Callie CurryHost10:24

But I think someone n- sa- came out and was like, people acting like she has, like, a full trust fund and everything.

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Callie CurryHost10:29

That's just, like, not true.

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Callie CurryHost10:31

But, like, her parents gave Kyle 500,000 to invest into Loverboy, so, like, they have money.

Rachel LindsayHost10:36

They gave her half a million-

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Callie CurryHost10:38

It's not like-

Rachel LindsayHost10:38

... to invest in a Loverboy? They're doing fine.

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Callie CurryHost10:41

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost10:41

They're doing just fine.

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Callie CurryHost10:42

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost10:42

Like, yeah.

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Callie CurryHost10:43

They're doing fine.

Rachel LindsayHost10:43

Like-

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Callie CurryHost10:43

Yeah

Rachel LindsayHost10:44

...

Rachel LindsayHost10:44

if you can give 500 to invest in somebody's company, then, then she easily has a trust fund that's more than half a million.

Rachel LindsayHost10:52

That's what I think.

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Callie CurryHost10:53

I don't know.

Rachel LindsayHost10:54

That's what I think.

Rachel LindsayHost10:55

But either way it goes, I just was like, Amanda has-

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Callie CurryHost11:00

That just reminded me of the rent

Rachel LindsayHost11:03

... that your rent is due?

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Callie CurryHost11:04

I can't ima- No. What?

Rachel LindsayHost11:06

[laughs] Oh.

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Callie CurryHost11:07

I can't ima- [laughs] I can't imagine my husband sending me a Venmo request for $112,000.

Rachel LindsayHost11:16

I must have missed this part, because when they brought it up, I was like, "Wait, did I walk out of the...

Rachel LindsayHost11:21

What happened? I, I missed this."

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Callie CurryHost11:24

Amanda had not paid rent in three years.

Rachel LindsayHost11:28

So they split the r-

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Callie CurryHost11:29

Per half.

Rachel LindsayHost11:30

They split the rent?

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Callie CurryHost11:31

It's, I don't know if they split it 50/50, but they split rent, and she had not paid the rent in three years.

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Callie CurryHost11:39

And there's, like, all these TikToks and whatever of, like, Amanda at home knowing that Loverboy is in a financial crisis, but not paying rent.

Rachel LindsayHost11:46

That's crazy.

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Callie CurryHost11:47

Um-

Rachel LindsayHost11:48

That's crazy.

Rachel LindsayHost11:50

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost11:51

[laughs] Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost11:51

So he calculated it all and sent her a request for 112, 112 or $117,000.

Rachel LindsayHost11:59

You can't even send that much through Venmo.

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Callie CurryHost12:02

Maybe it was...

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Callie CurryHost12:03

I, where can you send that much?

Rachel LindsayHost12:03

Maybe it was business.

Rachel LindsayHost12:05

A bank?

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Callie CurryHost12:05

Send me the wire.

Rachel LindsayHost12:06

A bank?

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Callie CurryHost12:07

Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost12:07

Like, I don't, I don't know.

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Callie CurryHost12:08

But yeah, sh- he requested from her-112 or $117,000.

Rachel LindsayHost12:14

That's hilarious.

Rachel LindsayHost12:15

I did not know that.

Rachel LindsayHost12:16

However, it just makes me...

Rachel LindsayHost12:17

It just like, gosh, these are two people who never should've been married sadly, and they know that now.

Rachel LindsayHost12:21

But it's-

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Callie CurryHost12:23

Yeah

Rachel LindsayHost12:23

... it's like when you marry somebody, it's gotta be a partnership.

Rachel LindsayHost12:28

You can't marry...

Rachel LindsayHost12:29

You marry a partner, not a person.

Rachel LindsayHost12:31

Amanda was never a partner to Kyle.

Rachel LindsayHost12:34

And, and that can be because of what Kyle did previously, whatever-

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Callie CurryHost12:38

Yeah

Rachel LindsayHost12:38

... you wanna place the blame.

Rachel LindsayHost12:40

She just did not come into this marriage as to be partners.

Rachel LindsayHost12:45

And-

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Callie CurryHost12:46

Agree

Rachel LindsayHost12:46

... that has been evident from the beginning to the end.

Rachel LindsayHost12:51

Um, Lindsay-

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Callie CurryHost12:52

I don't think she really wants a part- like a 50/50 partnership.

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Callie CurryHost12:56

That's not what Amanda's looking for.

Rachel LindsayHost12:57

No, she wants to be taken care of, which is wild she's in the situation she's in, but you know.

Rachel LindsayHost13:03

She doesn't...

Rachel LindsayHost13:03

No, no, no, let's just settle on this.

Rachel LindsayHost13:05

She doesn't know what she wants.

Rachel LindsayHost13:07

Uh, she doesn't know what she wants.

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Callie CurryHost13:08

Yeah, also being taken care of is like, I don't think...

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Callie CurryHost13:11

I don't, I don't necessarily think Amanda wants like a rich guy to come in and pay for everything.

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Callie CurryHost13:16

I just think she wants to do nothing.

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Callie CurryHost13:18

So-

Rachel LindsayHost13:18

She wants to do nothing

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Callie CurryHost13:19

... she'll live, she'll live a smaller life to do nothing.

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Callie CurryHost13:22

And she wants to be told, like, what to like, how to dress.

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Callie CurryHost13:24

Like, she wants that.

Rachel LindsayHost13:27

Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost13:27

Easiest, easiest pathway forward.

Rachel LindsayHost13:30

I wonder how she is as a dog mom.

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Callie CurryHost13:33

Uh, someone did DM me and said, "Did you notice how clean Kyle's apartment was-

Rachel LindsayHost13:37

I did

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Callie CurryHost13:37

...

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Callie CurryHost13:37

when Amanda came to talk to h- him?"

Rachel LindsayHost13:39

I did.

Rachel LindsayHost13:40

I thought about it immediately.

Rachel LindsayHost13:42

And I think they, that's why they had us-

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Callie CurryHost13:43

I think it's crazy that-

Rachel LindsayHost13:44

... purposely meet there.

Rachel LindsayHost13:45

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost13:46

At the beginning of, [laughs] at the beginning of Summer House when we were talking about Kyle being like, "I had to call her mom to come clean up for her at one point."

Rachel LindsayHost13:54

Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost13:54

And we were like, "That is crazy.

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Callie CurryHost13:56

Why can't you clean up for her? Blah, blah, blah, blah." And now I'm like, she was the problem.

Rachel LindsayHost14:03

Well, yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost14:03

I was like, why are you bringing her mom into it? Like, you guys should be able to work that out.

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Callie CurryHost14:08

'Cause she's used to her parents-

Rachel LindsayHost14:10

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost14:12

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost14:13

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost14:13

It's, it's-

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Callie CurryHost14:14

... doing everything

Rachel LindsayHost14:14

... it's wild.

Rachel LindsayHost14:15

Um, Lindsay and Carl talk.

Rachel LindsayHost14:19

The, uh, you know, I'm over it.

Rachel LindsayHost14:20

I, I, I guess, you know, knowing that, getting insight that Lindsay had not processed these feelings, which is probably why she acts the way she does around Kyle.

Rachel LindsayHost14:30

I mean, Kyle.

Rachel LindsayHost14:30

I always do this.

Rachel LindsayHost14:31

Kyle, Carl.

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Callie CurryHost14:31

Carl.

Rachel LindsayHost14:32

Why she acts the way she does around Carl, fine.

Rachel LindsayHost14:35

But I, I, I, I almost fast-forwarded.

Rachel LindsayHost14:39

[laughs] I just-

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Callie CurryHost14:41

I am happy that they had the conversation, and I hope we don't have to have another one.

Rachel LindsayHost14:46

Yeah, I hope so too.

Rachel LindsayHost14:47

I, I can't imagine what it f- felt like to be publicly embarrassed that way, like you had no idea that was happening, and you would never f- fathom that your s- significant other, first best friend would do you in that way.

Rachel LindsayHost15:01

And, and, and-

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Callie CurryHost15:01

I mean, a friend for years

Rachel LindsayHost15:03

... and she's a grudge holder, okay? So you know, I, so I can see why she's holding onto it.

Rachel LindsayHost15:09

But being a grudge holder, that she is, not me, but I just...

Rachel LindsayHost15:16

Even present day, like, when she's on Watch What Happens Live, and it's like she's so hesitant to be like, "I'm cool with Carl," or-

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Callie CurryHost15:23

We're in a good place

Rachel LindsayHost15:24

... we're in a good place.

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Callie CurryHost15:25

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost15:25

Or when somebody's like-

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Callie CurryHost15:26

She's like, "This is the first step."

Rachel LindsayHost15:27

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost15:27

When somebody's like, "Carl was smiling.

Rachel LindsayHost15:29

He was so, he's so happy when he talks about y'all." And she's like, "Yeah." It's like, let it go.

Rachel LindsayHost15:34

You don't have to be friends-

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Callie CurryHost15:35

Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost15:35

I agree

Rachel LindsayHost15:35

...

Rachel LindsayHost15:35

but you don't have to be so hard or hardened about it.

Rachel LindsayHost15:40

Uh, so yeah, fast-forward.

Rachel LindsayHost15:42

Kyle and Amanda don't talk the whole time.

Rachel LindsayHost15:46

Um-

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Callie CurryHost15:46

Well, he tries

Rachel LindsayHost15:47

... and let me ask you this.

Rachel LindsayHost15:49

If you were Ciara and Mia, and you're having this conversation with Amanda about, you know, like giving her a pep talk ab- and telling her how great she is and to stand up for herself, if your husband walks over to talk to you, would you have stayed there or would you have gotten up?

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Callie CurryHost16:06

Hmm.

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Callie CurryHost16:08

I would've gotten up.

Rachel LindsayHost16:09

I would've gotten up.

C

Callie CurryHost16:10

I would've gotten up.

Rachel LindsayHost16:10

I would've gotten up.

C

Callie CurryHost16:10

But I would've gotten up when we were, when they were in the bed and Kyle came in.

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Callie CurryHost16:13

I would've gotten up.

Rachel LindsayHost16:14

Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost16:15

Uh, I think that everyone in the house is tired of giving, getting up.

C

Callie CurryHost16:19

Like, these conversations have happened so much that they're like, "You're not gonna keep, you're not gonna keep interrupting my day, my night." Like-

Rachel LindsayHost16:27

Well-

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Callie CurryHost16:27

...

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Callie CurryHost16:28

I saw someone comment, like, "Mia and Ciara should've gotten up." And-

Rachel LindsayHost16:31

They should've

C

Callie CurryHost16:32

...

C

Callie CurryHost16:32

Ciara was like, uh, and Ciara commented underneath the comment and was like, "We were in bed in our room."

Rachel LindsayHost16:38

No, not that one.

C

Callie CurryHost16:38

Like, Amanda came in-

Rachel LindsayHost16:40

Not that one.

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Callie CurryHost16:40

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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Callie CurryHost16:41

I know.

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Callie CurryHost16:42

Someone had said it about that one.

Rachel LindsayHost16:43

Oh.

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Callie CurryHost16:43

Because I would've gotten up, and that's a scenario too.

C

Callie CurryHost16:45

I probably would've been like, "Oh, they need to talk.

C

Callie CurryHost16:47

Like, I don't need to be here for this." I feel uncomfortable in those situations.

Rachel LindsayHost16:50

Same.

C

Callie CurryHost16:50

So like, I'm like-

Rachel LindsayHost16:51

'Cause it's none of your business

C

Callie CurryHost16:52

...

C

Callie CurryHost16:52

this is not for me.

C

Callie CurryHost16:53

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost16:53

If the truth is, it's none of your business.

C

Callie CurryHost16:54

I don't need to know this information.

Rachel LindsayHost16:56

Yeah.

C

Callie CurryHost16:56

So-

Rachel LindsayHost16:56

I felt so uncomfortable watching that.

Rachel LindsayHost16:58

When, when they were at the après party and sitting in that spot, I would've gotten up, and if Amanda decided to follow me into the house, then I would've kept the conversation going.

Rachel LindsayHost17:10

But the way that-

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Callie CurryHost17:11

Well, so then the other thing is I think that Amanda doesn't want them to get up.

C

Callie CurryHost17:14

She doesn't wanna have the conversation with Kyle.

Rachel LindsayHost17:15

Then I would want her to tell me-

C

Callie CurryHost17:17

Say that

Rachel LindsayHost17:17

...

Rachel LindsayHost17:17

if I start getting up, then Amanda's like, "Don't go anywhere.

Rachel LindsayHost17:20

I'm having this conversation."

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Callie CurryHost17:21

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost17:22

It just was so awkward.

C

Callie CurryHost17:23

I'm with you.

C

Callie CurryHost17:23

I would've gotten up.

Rachel LindsayHost17:25

They just look at him.

C

Callie CurryHost17:27

I assume they're done with it.

Rachel LindsayHost17:28

I-

C

Callie CurryHost17:28

It seems like everybody in the house is like, "Uh, y'all gonna have to do this right here."

Rachel LindsayHost17:33

Man, let me tell you something.

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Callie CurryHost17:34

Like, even at dinner when Lindsay started, everyone...

C

Callie CurryHost17:36

The only person that said anything was Ben.

C

Callie CurryHost17:38

Everyone else was just like-

Rachel LindsayHost17:40

Yeah

C

Callie CurryHost17:40

... "Here we go again."

Rachel LindsayHost17:42

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost17:42

I just like...

Rachel LindsayHost17:44

Moving forward, don't let these people this much into your relationship.

Rachel LindsayHost17:49

I just, it's just, it's too much.

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Callie CurryHost17:50

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost17:50

It's, I, I just don't like...

Rachel LindsayHost17:52

I love the closeness of the group, but we are crossing boundaries that we just shouldn't.

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Callie CurryHost17:57

Boundaries.

Rachel LindsayHost17:57

I don't care how long you've been watching it.

Rachel LindsayHost17:59

Like, and, and Mia just got here.

Rachel LindsayHost18:01

So I just, I just, I'm-

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Callie CurryHost18:02

Which by the way, did you see how Amanda kissed Jesse?

Rachel LindsayHost18:05

Yes.

C

Callie CurryHost18:05

That was weird.

Rachel LindsayHost18:06

Yes, it is weird.

C

Callie CurryHost18:07

Talking about boundaries.

Rachel LindsayHost18:07

It is not...

Rachel LindsayHost18:08

Callie-

C

Callie CurryHost18:08

I was just like, "Okay"

Rachel LindsayHost18:09

... you and I would, wouldn't last one season in this houseWe would have a very short summer.

Rachel LindsayHost18:16

There's just no way.

Rachel LindsayHost18:17

Get out of my bed

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Callie CurryHost18:18

Also, I'm not sleeping with someone all summer.

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Callie CurryHost18:21

Like how Mia and, um, Sierra just share a bed all summer, not doing it.

Rachel LindsayHost18:26

It wouldn't be my preference, but I, it wouldn't kill me.

Rachel LindsayHost18:29

It's only for a few days.

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Callie CurryHost18:30

It'd kill me.

Rachel LindsayHost18:30

But I know that house smells.

C

Callie CurryHost18:32

It's not.

C

Callie CurryHost18:32

It's the whole summer.

C

Callie CurryHost18:34

It's a few days every week.

Rachel LindsayHost18:35

I know, a few days every weekend, but I, it's, that is the-

C

Callie CurryHost18:37

Three out of four days a week.

Rachel LindsayHost18:38

I would prefer-

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Callie CurryHost18:38

Half the week, half the summer

Rachel LindsayHost18:40

...

Rachel LindsayHost18:40

I would prefer my own bed, but it wouldn't kill me to be with my best friend.

Rachel LindsayHost18:44

But I, I know-

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Callie CurryHost18:47

No

Rachel LindsayHost18:47

... that house stinks.

Rachel LindsayHost18:49

Between having all them random people in your house, and then they go out and-

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Callie CurryHost18:54

Oh, yeah, I'm not.

C

Callie CurryHost18:54

Ugh

Rachel LindsayHost18:54

...

Rachel LindsayHost18:54

they go out and party, they don't bathe.

Rachel LindsayHost18:56

They come back, and you've got all the liquor, all the smells, all of that from, from that, and they don't do it till the morning.

Rachel LindsayHost19:05

Like, I know that house stinks.

Rachel LindsayHost19:06

Smells like straight feet and wet dog.

Rachel LindsayHost19:08

I know it does.

Rachel LindsayHost19:11

Ugh.

Rachel LindsayHost19:12

We would not fit in the summer house.

Rachel LindsayHost19:15

We just wouldn't.

Rachel LindsayHost19:16

I would be asking for another house.

Rachel LindsayHost19:17

I would just be asking, "Is there a guest house?" I'd sleep outside on, on one of the lounge chairs.

Rachel LindsayHost19:23

There'd be something.

Rachel LindsayHost19:23

We just wouldn't fit in.

Rachel LindsayHost19:24

We wouldn't fit in 'cause we would be minding our own business.

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Callie CurryHost19:26

Hey, don't go too hard 'cause I would like for you to make an appearance at some point.

Rachel LindsayHost19:29

No, I'm not doing that.

Rachel LindsayHost19:30

I could've already done that.

Rachel LindsayHost19:31

I could've already come to a s- gone to a summer party.

Rachel LindsayHost19:34

I just, no, I, I, oh, I would go, but I wouldn't spend the night.

Rachel LindsayHost19:38

You know? I could go, I wouldn't spend the night.

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Callie CurryHost19:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

C

Callie CurryHost19:39

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost19:40

But I, no.

Rachel LindsayHost19:41

No, no, no, no. Wes and Sierra.

Rachel LindsayHost19:44

Wes is going around telling people, "I don't want...

Rachel LindsayHost19:48

Tell, tell Sabrina to chill out.

Rachel LindsayHost19:51

I don't want Sierra to think that I'm trying to be boyfriend/girlfriend with her." And then the next thing you know, he is with Sabrina and Ben, and they're kissing.

Rachel LindsayHost20:03

And then she's laying in his lap, and he's like massaging her neck.

Rachel LindsayHost20:08

And then they go into the bedroom, 'cause he really thought he was getting lucky, and they kiss again.

Rachel LindsayHost20:13

And even Jesse's like, "What world is this? What reality am I living in?"

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Callie CurryHost20:17

[laughs]

Rachel LindsayHost20:17

He even knows it's right.

Rachel LindsayHost20:19

Like, and this is coming from the man who gets his toe sucked in, in, you know, during the witching hour of the night, and he even knows that something's not right.

Rachel LindsayHost20:28

So your thoughts.

Rachel LindsayHost20:31

I mean, this like, Wes wanted to have sex with her.

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Callie CurryHost20:33

I thought the make out was so odd.

C

Callie CurryHost20:38

I think Wes knew he shouldn't do it, but he was too drunk to say no.

Rachel LindsayHost20:45

He wanted to...

Rachel LindsayHost20:46

When they're in the bedroom and he's like, "Are you pushing me down on the bed?" Wes, remember when he-

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Callie CurryHost20:51

Oh, no, no, no. I'm talking about the original make out on the chair in front of-

Rachel LindsayHost20:56

Oh

C

Callie CurryHost20:56

...

C

Callie CurryHost20:56

Ben and Sabrina, who aren't saying a word and are just sitting there watching it.

Rachel LindsayHost21:00

Yeah.

C

Callie CurryHost21:03

Um, that make out was so strange to me, and it felt like Sierra went for it.

Rachel LindsayHost21:10

She did.

C

Callie CurryHost21:10

And Wes, I think if he was a little bit more sober, would've known that he can't do that, but he was not, so he made out with her, then was like, "All right, well, I already made out with her.

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Callie CurryHost21:21

I might as well have sex with her." And thank God, thank God Sierra was like, "No."

Rachel LindsayHost21:30

Nah, she wouldn't have done that.

Rachel LindsayHost21:32

She wouldn't have done that, but-

C

Callie CurryHost21:34

Thank God

Rachel LindsayHost21:35

... you know, it's-

C

Callie CurryHost21:37

But also, what a seat for Jesse, just laying in bed like, "What's happening right now?" [laughs]

Rachel LindsayHost21:43

Jesse is a cuck.

Rachel LindsayHost21:45

He was gonna sit and watch the whole thing.

Rachel LindsayHost21:47

[laughs] He had a-

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Callie CurryHost21:49

Jesse was like, "Uh"

Rachel LindsayHost21:49

...

Rachel LindsayHost21:49

I think he had a smile on his face.

Rachel LindsayHost21:51

If you zoom in, he's in the dark.

Rachel LindsayHost21:53

I think he was smiling like a Cheshire cat.

Rachel LindsayHost21:55

He's a cuck.

Rachel LindsayHost21:56

We know what his kinks are.

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Callie CurryHost21:58

I think that he was like, "What?" And also probably like even the way, again, we don't know when these interviews were filmed, but the way he was in his interview was like, kind of like, "This is a horrible idea."

Rachel LindsayHost22:12

Mm-hmm.

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Callie CurryHost22:12

"I don't know what is going on, and I can't believe Wes would do this again."

Rachel LindsayHost22:16

Mm-hmm.

C

Callie CurryHost22:16

That's the vibe that Jesse was giving.

Rachel LindsayHost22:18

No, he was.

Rachel LindsayHost22:19

He was.

Rachel LindsayHost22:20

He definitely was.

C

Callie CurryHost22:20

But it was also like, "I'm not getting up."

Rachel LindsayHost22:23

Yeah.

C

Callie CurryHost22:23

So.

Rachel LindsayHost22:24

That too.

Rachel LindsayHost22:25

Um, yeah.

C

Callie CurryHost22:26

I'm already in bed tucked in.

Rachel LindsayHost22:28

I'm glad it ended the way that it ended.

Rachel LindsayHost22:30

It needed to end, and I, and I'm glad we didn't talk about it in the morning.

Rachel LindsayHost22:33

You know, we focused on the Amanda and Kyle of it all, and they decided to have the song.

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Callie CurryHost22:37

Yeah, she was a little, she was a little hypey in the morning, but other than that.

Rachel LindsayHost22:41

She was hyped.

Rachel LindsayHost22:42

She told Mia.

Rachel LindsayHost22:43

Mia's like, "Oh, God." Mia, Mia's worried that she shouldn't-

C

Callie CurryHost22:46

And then she like went outside and was like, "Morning!" And Wes was like-

Rachel LindsayHost22:50

[laughs] Where's Mandy?

C

Callie CurryHost22:52

Like a thumbs up.

C

Callie CurryHost22:54

It's not what I'd want after a make out sesh.

C

Callie CurryHost22:56

Don't give me a thumbs up in the morning.

Rachel LindsayHost22:57

Who gave the thumbs up first?

C

Callie CurryHost23:00

Wes.

Rachel LindsayHost23:01

Oh.

C

Callie CurryHost23:01

She went outside and was like, "Morning!" And Wes had just gotten out of the pool and was just like...

Rachel LindsayHost23:08

Gosh.

C

Callie CurryHost23:08

She's like, "See you downstairs." And he was like, "Yeah." I was just like, oh God, that is not-

Rachel LindsayHost23:18

That's not what I would want either

C

Callie CurryHost23:20

... what I would want.

Rachel LindsayHost23:20

It's not what I would want either, man.

Rachel LindsayHost23:22

It's not what I would want either.

Rachel LindsayHost23:23

Um, Kyle and Amanda, I think the biggest takeaway I had is that, again, to see Amanda have the conversation she does in the city, and for us to say that Amanda only does something when she's like emotionally attached to something else.

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Callie CurryHost23:42

Mm-hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost23:43

You know, she would've never had the, the desire to leave Kyle if she hadn't attached herself to Wes.

Rachel LindsayHost23:49

Watching Amanda, Kyle confront Amanda and say to her, "I had this conversation with Sierra.

Rachel LindsayHost23:56

She said this-"

C

Callie CurryHost23:57

Mm-hmm

Rachel LindsayHost23:57

... "about separation.

Rachel LindsayHost23:58

I'm assuming she's saying how you feel." And Amanda's like, "I mean, I, Sierra told me about the conversation, but I, that's not how I feel.

Rachel LindsayHost24:07

I thought we were headed in, in the right direction, in a good place." And I'm like, let's rewind to when you say, "I appreciate you girls because you say exactly what it is I'm feeling."

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Callie CurryHost24:18

Mm-hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost24:18

And I, I just was like, are you, have you lied so much?That you can't remember what you say? I, I, I was like, this-

C

Callie CurryHost24:25

Probably

Rachel LindsayHost24:26

... is w- a wild statement.

Rachel LindsayHost24:28

And then she blames s- basically, like, "Sierra did that.

Rachel LindsayHost24:31

I didn't tell Sierra to say that." And then ends it with, "But I'm gonna go stay at a hotel." So I, I just-

C

Callie CurryHost24:37

So you do wanna be separated.

Rachel LindsayHost24:38

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost24:39

Are we going to get into...

Rachel LindsayHost24:39

Also, she blames it on his behavior-

C

Callie CurryHost24:41

Even two episodes ago

Rachel LindsayHost24:42

... she blames it on his behavior, which is also the pattern.

Rachel LindsayHost24:45

Like, that gave-

C

Callie CurryHost24:46

Yeah

Rachel LindsayHost24:46

... his behavior gave her an-

C

Callie CurryHost24:47

Yeah

Rachel LindsayHost24:47

... excuse.

Rachel LindsayHost24:47

It gave her an out.

Rachel LindsayHost24:48

"I never said that, but seeing you act like this again-"

C

Callie CurryHost24:52

Because you did A, B, and C, yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost24:54

Exactly.

C

Callie CurryHost24:56

She also told Sierra when they were in the city and talking when Amanda walked the dogs, um, she was like...

C

Callie CurryHost25:02

When Sierra was like, "What do you think about a separation?" She was basically like, "I'd be down, but he'd never go for it."

Rachel LindsayHost25:08

He'd never go for it.

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Callie CurryHost25:08

Which is exactly what Sierra told Kyle, she said.

Rachel LindsayHost25:13

I just, I just, I, ugh, ugh.

Rachel LindsayHost25:17

I wanna be done with it.

Rachel LindsayHost25:18

I wanna be done.

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Callie CurryHost25:19

I have a question, though, logistically.

C

Callie CurryHost25:22

Kyle and her, like, her being like, "I'm gonna, we're not gonna drive together."

Rachel LindsayHost25:26

Mm-hmm.

C

Callie CurryHost25:26

"I'm gonna drive my own car." And Kyle being like, "I never thought that we'd be leaving this summer in different, separate cars."

Rachel LindsayHost25:33

Yeah.

C

Callie CurryHost25:33

Well, you had to if both you guys had your car there.

Rachel LindsayHost25:37

Do we really think they had their car there, or was that just, like, for editing purposes?

C

Callie CurryHost25:41

I don't know, but her being like, "I'm driving," and he's driving, I'm like, okay, so if there's two cars there, y'all weren't going together.

Rachel LindsayHost25:49

Yeah, probably not.

C

Callie CurryHost25:50

Oh, she got in the backseat.

C

Callie CurryHost25:51

Belle said she got in the backseat.

C

Callie CurryHost25:53

Okay.

C

Callie CurryHost25:54

I was gonna say she took an Uber or a production vehicle, it seems.

Rachel LindsayHost25:59

Oh, okay.

Rachel LindsayHost26:00

Okay, okay.

Rachel LindsayHost26:01

Thank you, Bella.

C

Callie CurryHost26:01

'Cause when I was confused when he said that, I was like, if there's two cars there, then you guys were gonna have to go home separately.

Rachel LindsayHost26:07

Right.

C

Callie CurryHost26:08

I also don't think it's that big a video for them to drive back to the city in separate cars.

Rachel LindsayHost26:11

No, but it's just-

C

Callie CurryHost26:12

But

Rachel LindsayHost26:12

...

Rachel LindsayHost26:12

I get it for-

C

Callie CurryHost26:14

Yeah.

C

Callie CurryHost26:14

Yeah.

C

Callie CurryHost26:15

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost26:15

But I will say that-

C

Callie CurryHost26:17

But-

Rachel LindsayHost26:17

Oh, go ahead.

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Callie CurryHost26:19

I was gonna say, but them leaving separately, as in separated, even though that's not what's happening, that's what's happening.

Rachel LindsayHost26:27

Everybody saw it except for Kyle.

Rachel LindsayHost26:28

Like, Amanda was like, "I did it.

Rachel LindsayHost26:30

I had the conversation."

C

Callie CurryHost26:31

I think Kyle saw it.

Rachel LindsayHost26:33

[sighs] Except he-

C

Callie CurryHost26:34

He just didn't wanna, he didn't want it, yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost26:35

Accept it.

Rachel LindsayHost26:36

But I will say that I didn't know how In the City was gonna start, and I loved the transition, though.

Rachel LindsayHost26:43

Even though I don't like the subject matter, I loved the transition from literally the cameras picking up from that conversation and them literally driving into the city.

Rachel LindsayHost26:54

Because obviously it's reminiscent of how we watched, uh, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills-

C

Callie CurryHost26:59

Rachel LindsayHost26:59

... turn into...

Rachel LindsayHost27:00

No, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills turn into Vanderpump Rules.

C

Callie CurryHost27:04

Oh, I see.

C

Callie CurryHost27:05

Oh.

Rachel LindsayHost27:05

Rachel LindsayHost27:06

So I always loved that.

Rachel LindsayHost27:08

So I was like, oh, wow, I, this is not what...

Rachel LindsayHost27:11

I didn't think they were gonna connect it like this.

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Callie CurryHost27:14

That much, yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost27:15

But I appreciate it.

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In the City – Series Premiere Breakdown29:57 – 1:08:10

Rachel LindsayHost29:57

Okay, it's time to debrief the first episode of In the City.

Rachel LindsayHost30:02

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And the only thing keeping us sane are the all-new drinks at McDonald's.

Rachel LindsayHost30:11

They just dropped six new specialty beverages from fruity refreshers with popping boba or freeze-dried fruit to crafted sodas like the Sprite Berry Blast topped with cold foam.

Rachel LindsayHost30:24

These drinks are genuinely keeping us grounded, which is more than I can say for anyone on our screens.

Rachel LindsayHost30:31

Okay, Callie, let's get right into it.

Rachel LindsayHost30:35

In the CityOne out of 10, what did you think?

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Callie CurryHost30:42

Oh, Rachel, I don't think you're gonna like what I have to say.

Rachel LindsayHost30:46

Go ahead.

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Callie CurryHost30:47

One out of 10.

Rachel LindsayHost30:48

10 being good, great.

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Callie CurryHost30:52

I think it has a potential for the first episode.

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Callie CurryHost30:57

I think going after Summer House hurt it.

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Callie CurryHost31:01

Probably helped it ratings-wise, but like, for what I felt during it, f- oh man, I'd say like a five.

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Callie CurryHost31:12

But there was one moment in it that's one of my favorite moments from 2026.

Rachel LindsayHost31:18

Oh, well then how are we at a five, Callie? How are we at a five? [laughs]

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Callie CurryHost31:22

'Cause that was like it.

Rachel LindsayHost31:23

What was the moment?

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Callie CurryHost31:24

I really, I really didn't wanna see Ama- like, I was done with Amanda before the episode started, and I think that hurt my, like enjoyment of the show.

Rachel LindsayHost31:32

Fair.

Rachel LindsayHost31:33

Fair.

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Callie CurryHost31:34

Um, [laughs] when Amanda and Kyle-

Rachel LindsayHost31:38

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost31:38

... are going back and forth.

Rachel LindsayHost31:40

Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost31:41

And she said, "Kyle, you literally made out with someone while we were married." He says, "Says who?" She was like, "Kyle, there's video footage." And he goes, "Okay."

Rachel LindsayHost31:52

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost31:52

Like-

Rachel LindsayHost31:54

Your point? [laughs]

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Callie CurryHost31:56

He, he was kind of like, "Uh, I don't...

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Callie CurryHost31:59

I, I can't really go back at that if she has video proof."

Rachel LindsayHost32:03

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost32:03

He was done.

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Callie CurryHost32:03

I'm also thinking if she's had video proof, she never told him that she had video proof.

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Callie CurryHost32:09

Which I think she has it, I think she has the video proof.

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Callie CurryHost32:11

But that means I, I feel like she's been so checked out that she didn't even care to bring it up to him.

Rachel LindsayHost32:18

Well, I wonder when she got that information, 'cause that was my thought.

Rachel LindsayHost32:21

It's like, when we were married, was it right before...

Rachel LindsayHost32:26

You know, was it during the summer when we saw it all kind of really break down? Was it after? Well, no, this was September, so it couldn't have been after really the summer.

Rachel LindsayHost32:34

So I was like, well, was it r-

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Callie CurryHost32:35

Yeah

Rachel LindsayHost32:35

...

Rachel LindsayHost32:35

it was it more re- towards the end? Or was it...

Rachel LindsayHost32:38

'Cause it's so interesting you say it that way, 'cause then when I watched her say that, I thought it happened at the beginning of their marriage.

Rachel LindsayHost32:47

That's what I really thought.

Rachel LindsayHost32:48

But now that I'm talking-

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Callie CurryHost32:49

Maybe

Rachel LindsayHost32:49

... no, but no, I think it makes more sense.

Rachel LindsayHost32:50

'Cause like now that I'm talking to you, I'm like, it had to be towards the end and she was just so checked out, she like never mentioned it to him and she didn't care.

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Callie CurryHost32:57

'Cause I'm like, how did she never bring it up?

Rachel LindsayHost32:59

And I think it probably-

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Callie CurryHost33:00

Yeah

Rachel LindsayHost33:00

... made her feel justified in some of the later actions that she had.

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Callie CurryHost33:04

Whatever she was doing.

Rachel LindsayHost33:06

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost33:06

I didn't think about it at that at, at, at all because I'm just so used to hearing about Kyle cheat.

Rachel LindsayHost33:11

I just assumed-

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Callie CurryHost33:12

I just-

Rachel LindsayHost33:12

...

Rachel LindsayHost33:12

it could've happened at any time.

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Callie CurryHost33:13

[laughs] I just feel like when people find out about their spouses doing things, it's usually like immediate, where you're like-

Rachel LindsayHost33:20

Mm-hmm

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Callie CurryHost33:20

... "Did you do this?"

Rachel LindsayHost33:21

Mm-hmm.

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Callie CurryHost33:21

So for him to find out, 'cause he did not know she knew about that moment-

Rachel LindsayHost33:26

Yeah, yeah

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Callie CurryHost33:26

... until the, the camera was on him.

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Callie CurryHost33:28

The way he said okay was like, "Okay.

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Callie CurryHost33:32

Like yeah, I did."

Rachel LindsayHost33:33

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost33:33

"And I don't, there's not really much I can say." Um, I laughed out loud, rewound, and watched it again.

Rachel LindsayHost33:42

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost33:42

Like it was so funny to me, and I just like Kyle so much right now, which is probably not fully fair, but it is what it is.

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Callie CurryHost33:51

I like him.

Rachel LindsayHost33:53

You're not alone.

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Callie CurryHost33:54

Oh, I don't have my Carl's a Mess sweatshirt on.

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Callie CurryHost33:57

Should I go get it? Can anyone hear me?

Rachel LindsayHost34:01

Yeah, I can hear you.

Rachel LindsayHost34:02

I paused because I just assumed-

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Callie CurryHost34:04

I know you can hear me-

Rachel LindsayHost34:05

No, no, I wanna keep all this in

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Callie CurryHost34:07

...

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Callie CurryHost34:07

but I wanted to make sure.

Rachel LindsayHost34:07

I wanna keep all this in because I assumed seeing the black, 'cause you're on screen, I just assumed that I couldn't see where it said Carl's a Mess.

Rachel LindsayHost34:14

And the fact that you left me out here hanging and I've been running around Spotify West Hollywood wearing a Carl's a Mess shirt by myself.

Rachel LindsayHost34:21

Go put it on.

Rachel LindsayHost34:22

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost34:22

You can't even see yours, but you lifted up for a second and I saw mess.

Rachel LindsayHost34:26

Go put it on.

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Callie CurryHost34:26

And I was like, "Oh, no."

Rachel LindsayHost34:27

Go put it on.

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Callie CurryHost34:28

Okay.

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Callie CurryHost34:28

Hold on.

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Callie CurryHost34:28

It's really, like, it's right here.

Rachel LindsayHost34:28

We're supposed to be twins.

Rachel LindsayHost34:30

[laughs] There she is in her Carl's a Mess sweatshirt, which I might like better than my T-shirt.

Rachel LindsayHost34:37

Now I have a question for you, and this is no shade.

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Callie CurryHost34:39

Mm-hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost34:39

We've already purchased it.

Rachel LindsayHost34:40

We've already done our, our good deed.

Rachel LindsayHost34:42

We've, we've, we've kept lover boy alive, which mine says lover boy.

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Callie CurryHost34:46

Before.

Rachel LindsayHost34:46

Lover boy on the back.

Rachel LindsayHost34:48

I, I'm assuming yours does too, but mine is kind of faded.

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Callie CurryHost34:53

Oh, mine's not.

Rachel LindsayHost34:55

Mine is like a faded black.

Rachel LindsayHost34:57

It doesn't look as like rich as yours.

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Callie CurryHost35:01

Yeah, yours does look more gray than black than mine.

C

Callie CurryHost35:04

Mine's like a pretty...

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Callie CurryHost35:05

It's, it's black with a pop of white.

Rachel LindsayHost35:08

Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost35:08

It's a crispy white too.

Rachel LindsayHost35:10

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost35:11

It's...

Rachel LindsayHost35:11

I-

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Callie CurryHost35:11

I just can't even imagine how many of these they had to press.

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Callie CurryHost35:16

Like they were just-

Rachel LindsayHost35:17

Well, they, they did them quickly.

Rachel LindsayHost35:18

From the, from my shirt-

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Callie CurryHost35:19

Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost35:20

[laughs]

Rachel LindsayHost35:20

...

Rachel LindsayHost35:20

it was quick.

Rachel LindsayHost35:21

It was quick.

Rachel LindsayHost35:21

But thank you that now we're matching, and now you're making me want a sweatshirt, but I can't trust it 'cause of the quality of my shirt.

Rachel LindsayHost35:28

But that's, that's neither here nor there.

Rachel LindsayHost35:30

You know, go out and get your Carl's a Mess shirts and sweatshirts today.

Rachel LindsayHost35:34

Support, support a, support a-

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Callie CurryHost35:36

Lover boy

Rachel LindsayHost35:36

... young entrepreneur.

Rachel LindsayHost35:38

[laughs] Support-

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Callie CurryHost35:39

[laughs] He's not that young, but he looks young.

Rachel LindsayHost35:41

Well, okay, seeing somebody's...

Rachel LindsayHost35:42

I like to consider myself young.

Rachel LindsayHost35:44

We're close in age.

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Callie CurryHost35:45

[laughs]

Rachel LindsayHost35:45

Come on now.

Rachel LindsayHost35:45

Give me, give me a little.

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Callie CurryHost35:46

A young entrepreneur to me is like under 30.

Rachel LindsayHost35:49

Shh.

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Callie CurryHost35:49

So younger, way younger than me, just to be clear.

Rachel LindsayHost35:52

Shh.

Rachel LindsayHost35:52

He started it younger.

Rachel LindsayHost35:53

Shh.

Rachel LindsayHost35:54

[laughs] Um-

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Callie CurryHost35:55

I, um, I think was gonna say that it's not fair, but I do love Kyle, and it is what it is.

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Callie CurryHost36:02

But-

Rachel LindsayHost36:02

Yeah

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Callie CurryHost36:02

...

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Callie CurryHost36:02

I would like for you to tell me over, under, seven times did Kyle cheat on Amanda? What, what's your bet?

Rachel LindsayHost36:14

Oh, under.

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Callie CurryHost36:16

Okay.

Rachel LindsayHost36:17

But like right on the line.

Rachel LindsayHost36:20

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost36:22

[laughs]

Rachel LindsayHost36:23

We're pretty close.

Rachel LindsayHost36:24

I had to think about it for a second.

Rachel LindsayHost36:26

Um, something you said-

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Callie CurryHost36:28

I did appreciate that he didn't, he didn't say, "I didn't." He said, "Who? According to who?"

Rachel LindsayHost36:33

Because that, at that moment, they were already divorced or had filed for divorce or at least separated.

Rachel LindsayHost36:38

I don't know if they've officially filed.

Rachel LindsayHost36:39

They've at least announced their separation at that point that we saw, which was my biggest issue with this episode.

Rachel LindsayHost36:45

So first I'll say to your point about you saying talking about Kyle and the way you feel about him, and I said you're not alone, I saw an article that was like how Kyle became the hero, and it really made me sit with the damage that Mandy and West have done with each other.

Rachel LindsayHost37:00

She's Mandy now 'cause we're in the cityThe West that they have done are, are...

Rachel LindsayHost37:05

The West.

Rachel LindsayHost37:05

What they have done to-

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Callie CurryHost37:07

[laughs]

Rachel LindsayHost37:08

... like all these people-

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Callie CurryHost37:09

Soul shows

Rachel LindsayHost37:09

... and with the situation, it's like because of what they've done, the damage, it feels like everybody has like gone up a notch or two or three except for those two.

Rachel LindsayHost37:20

Like what...

Rachel LindsayHost37:21

Like a bad thing was done and people are hurt, and the d- like that will sit with, like the Kyle and the, um, Ciara of it all will sit with them for a long time.

Rachel LindsayHost37:32

But like they have...

Rachel LindsayHost37:33

Great things have happened to them outside of that.

Rachel LindsayHost37:36

You can't say that for Mandy and West.

Rachel LindsayHost37:38

It's really interesting, like even the way you feel about Kyle, the way that article said he's become the hero.

Rachel LindsayHost37:43

Like you're really looking at K- Kyle f- through a different lens in a way that we never have before.

Rachel LindsayHost37:48

Now, my biggest issue with this episode, I'm going to give it a seven.

Rachel LindsayHost37:53

But my biggest issue-

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Callie CurryHost37:54

That's good.

Rachel LindsayHost37:55

Well, my biggest issue was we had been...

Rachel LindsayHost37:59

The, it had been teased that this, the first episode was going to address the West and Mandy of it all.

Rachel LindsayHost38:08

What I expected was to see West and Mandy together having a conversation, and then them rewinding it back.

Rachel LindsayHost38:17

I was highly disappointed that you put screenshots of, you know, their, um, joint announcement, all the headlines, and then you go to...

Rachel LindsayHost38:27

It was a little almost even confusing.

Rachel LindsayHost38:29

And then you go to Kyle and Mandy having this conversation, and I'm like, "I don't really even care to hear this conversation.

Rachel LindsayHost38:38

You're not giving me anything." I know that Kyle cares for Amanda, and I know that he wants to at least support her because they've spent 10 years together.

Rachel LindsayHost38:46

Didn't need that.

Rachel LindsayHost38:47

What I wanted-

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Callie CurryHost38:48

Mm-hmm

Rachel LindsayHost38:48

... as much as it would've disgusted me, was to see present day West and Amanda.

Rachel LindsayHost38:56

Or-

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Callie CurryHost38:56

I wonder if West is on this at all.

Rachel LindsayHost38:59

Well, we know that there's the preview.

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Callie CurryHost39:02

Yeah, but in the-

Rachel LindsayHost39:02

We know from the preview, I mean

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Callie CurryHost39:04

...

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Callie CurryHost39:04

but in the preview, isn't it more so just like West was already a, a little bit in it because he hangs out with them.

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Callie CurryHost39:11

Is there post everything happening West in it?

Rachel LindsayHost39:17

I doubt it, but I don't know.

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Callie CurryHost39:19

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost39:19

Maybe we'll get that at the end.

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Callie CurryHost39:21

I don't know either.

Rachel LindsayHost39:21

But I was hoping to get that at the beginning at least.

Rachel LindsayHost39:24

You know what I mean? The fresh off the reunion.

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Callie CurryHost39:26

Yeah, and I think because of being after like the last episode of Summer House, which was like draining, it felt like I was like done with this show before it started.

C

Callie CurryHost39:40

I watched it, but I was kind of like ch- I was just like, "I, I...

C

Callie CurryHost39:44

Okay."

Rachel LindsayHost39:45

Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost39:45

Like the, the conversation you're talking about, I'm like, "I want the reunion.

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Callie CurryHost39:49

I don't want this.

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Callie CurryHost39:50

I don't wanna see Kyle being nice to Amanda and in a better place and trying to help her through it." Like I...

C

Callie CurryHost39:55

And not answer one single question, and the one question he asks, you s- cry, but then you're totally fine 10 seconds later.

Rachel LindsayHost40:03

Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost40:04

I, I...

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Callie CurryHost40:04

It's not what I wanted.

Rachel LindsayHost40:05

Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost40:06

And also the entire time I'm thinking like during their original conversation from the original filming when she's asking to go, or not asking, telling him that she's moving out for a month, I'm like, "Are you with West during this?" Because I found out today that-

Rachel LindsayHost40:22

What?

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Callie CurryHost40:22

...

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Callie CurryHost40:23

the, the day the conversation happens where she says she's moving out and she starts moving out, like when she's packing up, she's moving out.

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Callie CurryHost40:31

The next day, West posted a dump of pictures.

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Callie CurryHost40:36

Amanda's in one.

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Callie CurryHost40:37

They're cheers-ing.

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Callie CurryHost40:38

It's just them two, and the, and the-

Rachel LindsayHost40:40

I saw that

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Callie CurryHost40:41

... uh, caption is, "Two soups." And people are saying it's in reference to an Office episode where he's like, "We're just two soups soulmates."

Rachel LindsayHost40:54

Hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost40:56

Wow, people are really doing their digging.

Rachel LindsayHost40:58

And I-

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Callie CurryHost40:59

Yeah

Rachel LindsayHost40:59

... and I'm, and I'm grateful for it.

Rachel LindsayHost41:00

I did see that post.

Rachel LindsayHost41:01

I never would've put the two soups or whatever that is together.

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Callie CurryHost41:05

I would never.

Rachel LindsayHost41:06

It's-

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Callie CurryHost41:06

And even after seeing it, I'm like, "Is that a reach?" I mean, I don't know why else you'd call-

Rachel LindsayHost41:10

No

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Callie CurryHost41:10

... yourself two soups.

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Callie CurryHost41:11

Like that's also weird.

Rachel LindsayHost41:12

It's like they think that they're so smart.

Rachel LindsayHost41:14

Like that's...

Rachel LindsayHost41:16

I know what I said last week, and I, I still stand by that, but it's at times when I question it because I feel like they got off in playing in our faces and thinking nobody knew or no- or no one would ever know.

Rachel LindsayHost41:30

And so I do believe that that was probably a thing.

Rachel LindsayHost41:33

And you know, like maybe they were saying they were soulmates, but they were never gonna act on it 'cause it could hurt too many people.

Rachel LindsayHost41:37

I don't know.

Rachel LindsayHost41:37

I also saw that based on this timeline, he had just gone out with Mia as well, like right before all of this happened.

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Callie CurryHost41:43

In September.

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Callie CurryHost41:44

Mm-hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost41:44

It was all around the same time.

Rachel LindsayHost41:46

Um, and then Kyle said on Watch What Happens Live, you know, he's talking about like they made up and then they were making out at the open or whatever he said.

Rachel LindsayHost41:56

I don't know.

Rachel LindsayHost41:56

It's just too much.

Rachel LindsayHost41:57

It's just too much.

Rachel LindsayHost41:58

Hopefully, please, please, please let the reunion answer all the timeline questions.

Rachel LindsayHost42:02

Please let there be a whiteboard.

Rachel LindsayHost42:03

Please let somebody draw it out.

Rachel LindsayHost42:05

Like I am so tired of trying to figure out the timeline, which is why I settled on what I did last week.

Rachel LindsayHost42:11

It was more for peace of mind than, than that's what I actually believe, if I'm being honest.

Rachel LindsayHost42:16

Um-

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Callie CurryHost42:16

I don't think that we're gonna get a clear timeline because it seems like they're still lying coming to the reunion.

Rachel LindsayHost42:22

Well, I'm gonna believe whatever timeline that Ciara and Kyle are coming with.

Rachel LindsayHost42:25

When they have that little group meeting that we saw and they're like-

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Callie CurryHost42:28

Mm.

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Callie CurryHost42:28

Mm-hmm

Rachel LindsayHost42:28

... "Okay, we stick to this," that's where I am.

Rachel LindsayHost42:30

I'm right there in the middle of that meeting.

Rachel LindsayHost42:32

So that's my biggest complaint, is because my expectations were high, and that's why I'm giving it a seven.

Rachel LindsayHost42:38

The other reason that I'm being gracious with my number is because it's the first season-

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Callie CurryHost42:44

Yeah

Rachel LindsayHost42:44

... episode-

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Callie CurryHost42:45

Yes

Rachel LindsayHost42:45

... one, so we have to get to know the people, so there's only so much that can happen.

Rachel LindsayHost42:51

Like we have to understand who Kenny is, who Gavin is, who...

Rachel LindsayHost42:56

Was it Yvonne? Who like all these other people are.

Rachel LindsayHost43:00

Even Gemma, we have to understand.

Rachel LindsayHost43:02

Like thank God we saw her.

Rachel LindsayHost43:04

I like to think me saying, "If we're not getting the baby, what are we doing?"... is why we get to see Gemma's face, and she's so cute.

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Callie CurryHost43:10

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost43:11

She's so cute.

Rachel LindsayHost43:12

Um, yeah, Yvonne, Nick, Lexi.

Rachel LindsayHost43:15

We already know Andrea.

Rachel LindsayHost43:17

Gavin, Kenny, Whitney.

Rachel LindsayHost43:18

We have to get to know these people and figure out how they're interconnected, and I did like the way they showed us how they are all interconnected.

Rachel LindsayHost43:28

I, I liked that.

Rachel LindsayHost43:29

I thought that was cool.

Rachel LindsayHost43:30

Um, it makes me feel like, all right, this is a f- real friend group.

Rachel LindsayHost43:34

And even Kyle saying when he's talking to Kenny and he's like, "Well, I didn't get really gets...

Rachel LindsayHost43:39

I'm just now getting to know Whitney, but she seems great," I like that.

Rachel LindsayHost43:42

You don't know Whitney as well, but we're getting throwback pictures of you and Kenny, and you've done Frank's, uh, Friendsgiving together.

Rachel LindsayHost43:48

So I'm like, this is-

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Callie CurryHost43:49

Mm-hmm

Rachel LindsayHost43:49

... a real friend group.

Rachel LindsayHost43:50

That draws me in, not random people put together to create a show.

Rachel LindsayHost43:56

So that gives me hope as well.

Rachel LindsayHost43:58

Do I think that there's too many people? Yes.

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Callie CurryHost44:03

Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost44:03

When you started naming names, I was like, "Who?"

Rachel LindsayHost44:06

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost44:07

And I didn't even name-

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Callie CurryHost44:08

There are some memorable ones

Rachel LindsayHost44:09

...

Rachel LindsayHost44:09

I didn't even name Lindsay's, the, the dermatologist or whatever friend.

Rachel LindsayHost44:13

I, I didn't even name her.

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Callie CurryHost44:14

Best, not best friend.

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Callie CurryHost44:16

I know who the dermatologist is, but I don't know her name.

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Callie CurryHost44:19

Um, there were some memorable people, and there were some memorable conversations, so I think that is pretty good for a first episode.

Rachel LindsayHost44:28

Who was memorable to you?

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Callie CurryHost44:28

I have a question as someone...

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Callie CurryHost44:31

Uh, uh, Kenny's obviously memorable.

Rachel LindsayHost44:33

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost44:33

Um, and Lindsay's best friend, Yvonne, is that her name?

Rachel LindsayHost44:39

Mm-hmm.

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Callie CurryHost44:41

She's memorable, and a specific scene with her was pretty memorable.

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Callie CurryHost44:45

Um, as someone who has been married and gotten divorced, I'm so curious how you feel about this because I had feelings.

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Callie CurryHost44:55

When Kyle and Amanda are talking and she decides, "I am moving out."

Rachel LindsayHost45:03

Mm-hmm.

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Callie CurryHost45:03

And he's like, "Okay, if I accept..." She's like, "There's no accept."

Rachel LindsayHost45:07

Mm-hmm.

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Callie CurryHost45:07

"This is what I'm doing."

Rachel LindsayHost45:08

Mm-hmm.

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Callie CurryHost45:08

And he's like, "Okay, if I agree..." "No, there's no agreement.

C

Callie CurryHost45:11

This is what I'm doing.

C

Callie CurryHost45:12

I don't need your permission.

C

Callie CurryHost45:14

I don't need your approval.

C

Callie CurryHost45:15

I don't need da da da da," whatever.

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Callie CurryHost45:19

Obviously, I don't like Amanda, so, like, I watch that and have, like, a certain view of it.

Rachel LindsayHost45:23

Sure.

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Callie CurryHost45:24

I understand her being like, "You can't tell me what to do," and, like, "I'm doing what I want regardless." My feeling though is I'm like, yeah, no, but you are in a marriage, so usually you move forward, especially if you're not getting divorced, together.

Rachel LindsayHost45:39

Mm-hmm.

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Callie CurryHost45:39

So if this is what you need, it would be...

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Callie CurryHost45:42

Like, if I was Kyle, I would be like, "I actually do have a say.

C

Callie CurryHost45:46

I could say, 'You can do that, and we'll get divorced.'"

Rachel LindsayHost45:49

Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost45:50

Like, you don't just get to do this, and we stay together and try to work on it and date each other.

Rachel LindsayHost45:54

Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost45:54

Like, you're speaking for me and what I wanna do in this situation.

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Callie CurryHost45:59

I feel like how she...

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Callie CurryHost46:00

First of all, someone definitely told her what to say and how to say it 'cause it's, that's just not Amanda's personality from anything that we have seen-

Rachel LindsayHost46:07

Mm-hmm

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Callie CurryHost46:08

... at all.

Rachel LindsayHost46:08

Mm-hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost46:09

Mm-hmm.

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Callie CurryHost46:10

So someone is in her ear saying, "This is how you say it," and you s- and you have to say, like, "No, I'm not asking you for approval." Like, this, this isn't...

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Callie CurryHost46:17

We- I've never seen Amanda act like that ever.

Rachel LindsayHost46:19

Mm-hmm.

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Callie CurryHost46:20

So I'm like, who's telling her to talk like this?

Rachel LindsayHost46:24

Well, I don't know.

Rachel LindsayHost46:27

But, and we talked about this when we were recapping Summer House, but the quickness...

Rachel LindsayHost46:34

I know we say we're not gonna talk about timelines, but this is something we do know.

Rachel LindsayHost46:37

The quickness of the filming picks, obviously picks up from the end of the summer to the start of the fall, so we're in September.

Rachel LindsayHost46:45

The quickness of the decision of I'm gonna stay in a hotel for a couple of days and now I'm moving out really contradicts that statement that she made when she said, "I didn't tell Sia...

Rachel LindsayHost46:58

I don't know why Sierra said that.

Rachel LindsayHost47:00

I...

Rachel LindsayHost47:00

Like, that's not how I feel.

Rachel LindsayHost47:01

I thought we were moving in a place." Like, I was like, this woman is such a liar.

Rachel LindsayHost47:05

This woman is such-

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Callie CurryHost47:05

Yeah, also we have it on camera that-

Rachel LindsayHost47:07

Yeah

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Callie CurryHost47:07

... you told Sierra that.

Rachel LindsayHost47:07

You're such a liar.

Rachel LindsayHost47:08

You didn't make this...

Rachel LindsayHost47:09

These decisions didn't come quickly.

Rachel LindsayHost47:11

You knew...

Rachel LindsayHost47:12

You, you were p- you were moving towards this.

Rachel LindsayHost47:14

You were planning this.

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Callie CurryHost47:15

Mm-hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost47:16

So, and the other thing was, I'm like, you're talking out of both sides of your neck right now.

Rachel LindsayHost47:22

If you were in therapy, even if it is going bad, you were in couples therapy because a good therapist will say to you, and I am speaking from experience, "Do you want to stay together or, or not?" Because then they know-

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Callie CurryHost47:34

Mm-hmm

Rachel LindsayHost47:35

... how to counsel you.

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Callie CurryHost47:37

Mm-hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost47:37

And if y'all are saying you wanna stay together and you're working toward that, then you don't make a unilateral decision like that.

Rachel LindsayHost47:43

Separation is something you talk about in therapy, 'cause that's what we did.

Rachel LindsayHost47:47

Like, it's something that you talk about, and you try to decide together how it should go and what's best, and whether you agree or you don't, you know, it is what it is with each couple.

Rachel LindsayHost47:56

But the fact that you did that is also telling.

Rachel LindsayHost47:59

And you see Kyle kind of talk about it on Watch What Happens Live.

Rachel LindsayHost48:02

It's like he knew what was happening, but he just wasn't ready to accept it yet, so he was just gonna say-

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Callie CurryHost48:08

Mm

Rachel LindsayHost48:08

... yes to whatever Amanda wanted because he was hanging on for dear life.

Rachel LindsayHost48:12

Like, he just didn't wanna get divorced no matter how it looked.

Rachel LindsayHost48:15

But the way that-

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Callie CurryHost48:16

Yeah

Rachel LindsayHost48:16

... she went about it, every move that she was making was just inching towards divorce.

Rachel LindsayHost48:22

She was making decisions as a single per- not a single person, but as an individual, and not as a-

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Callie CurryHost48:28

Mm-hmm

Rachel LindsayHost48:28

... partnership, which totally contradicts.

Rachel LindsayHost48:30

So you can't talk about how Kyle's being in therapy and how bad it is and how he doesn't get it when you're also making moves as an individual and not together.

Rachel LindsayHost48:39

So it's, to your point about giving it a five, because of, like, just, like, the Amanda and the drag of it all and, you know, like, it...

Rachel LindsayHost48:48

I liked the transition, but just the way it ended, it is tough.

Rachel LindsayHost48:52

Even when we see in this episode everybody's getting together to go to The Garrett and meet up and...

Rachel LindsayHost48:59

It's funny, I only remember that name because I know some of these people.

Rachel LindsayHost49:02

[laughs] Otherwise, I would not remember what The Garrett was.

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Callie CurryHost49:05

[laughs]

Rachel LindsayHost49:05

Um, when we see Amanda and Kyle walking up, it's just such, like-A change of mood from what we're seeing happening at the re- at the bar to them, and you...

Rachel LindsayHost49:17

I knew Amanda wasn't gonna go.

Rachel LindsayHost49:19

Like, from the way she was dressed to the look on her face.

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Callie CurryHost49:22

I mean, yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost49:23

I just was like, they are miserable.

Rachel LindsayHost49:26

And so I'm just...

Rachel LindsayHost49:27

And this is-

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Callie CurryHost49:27

Yeah

Rachel LindsayHost49:27

...

Rachel LindsayHost49:27

the first episode, too, so I'm like, what does the rest of the season look like? What is the re- she's living separately from you.

Rachel LindsayHost49:35

She cannot stand to be around you.

Rachel LindsayHost49:37

She literally looks sick when she's around you.

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Callie CurryHost49:40

Mm-hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost49:41

Like, where are we going from here? And just seeing that energy is a little bit of, like, it, it just like-

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Callie CurryHost49:48

A downer

Rachel LindsayHost49:48

... puts a cloud over-

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Callie CurryHost49:50

Yeah

Rachel LindsayHost49:51

... yeah, the season.

Rachel LindsayHost49:52

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost49:52

Yeah, yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost49:53

I'm with you on that.

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Callie CurryHost49:54

Also, I did laugh when she was like, "I'm literally sweating," and he was like, "You're wearing a raincoat in June." And she's like, "It's not a raincoat," and starts crying, and then the camera, like, pans up and down.

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Callie CurryHost50:05

What is that?

Rachel LindsayHost50:06

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost50:06

A trench? It's either a trench or a rain.

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Callie CurryHost50:09

I don't know, I don't know which one it is, but you have a coat on.

Rachel LindsayHost50:12

[laughs] He said a rainco- again, Kyle is funny, and I just don't even think-

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Callie CurryHost50:17

Funny

Rachel LindsayHost50:17

...

Rachel LindsayHost50:17

he realizes that he's funny.

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Callie CurryHost50:19

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost50:19

His just, like, whole being is funny.

Rachel LindsayHost50:22

Um, other things that happened, I mean, at the top of the episode, even though we don't get the Mandy and West that I wanted, in that conversation they do talk about, she denies emphatically that she had an emotional relationship with West, even though Kyle-

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Callie CurryHost50:38

Ugh

Rachel LindsayHost50:38

... is like, "Well, now I'm watching things back," and it was just kind of all there.

Rachel LindsayHost50:44

And then of course she's like, she's super hurt by the accusation, of course.

Rachel LindsayHost50:49

Like, what else? How else is Amanda gonna react?

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Callie CurryHost50:51

Also, how could you, how could you ask me that? What, what do you mean? You, you've just been lying to me for months fucking my friend and roommate.

Rachel LindsayHost51:00

Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost51:01

I think you're capable of that.

Rachel LindsayHost51:02

Totally fa- you get nothing.

Rachel LindsayHost51:04

You get nothing.

Rachel LindsayHost51:05

And no, no, no.

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Callie CurryHost51:06

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost51:06

But he is giving her, he's actually giving her something so much-

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Callie CurryHost51:08

He's giving her a lot

Rachel LindsayHost51:09

... better than that.

Rachel LindsayHost51:10

He is caring about her mental state, and he is-

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Callie CurryHost51:14

Yes

Rachel LindsayHost51:14

... refusing to abandon her despite popular opinion.

Rachel LindsayHost51:18

Despite all that she did, he is still putting concern for her above everything else.

Rachel LindsayHost51:25

So he doesn't owe you the whole benefit of the doubt.

Rachel LindsayHost51:30

Girl, that is out the window.

Rachel LindsayHost51:31

But he is being-

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Callie CurryHost51:32

Yeah

Rachel LindsayHost51:33

...

Rachel LindsayHost51:33

so kind and caring, even to this day, 'cause you hear him talk about it on Watch What Happens Live.

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Callie CurryHost51:39

Mm-hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost51:40

And you should be grateful for that.

Rachel LindsayHost51:43

You should be grateful for that.

Rachel LindsayHost51:45

Um...

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Callie CurryHost51:45

Yeah, I think that she also can't stand that somehow he looks like the better partner because she has lived in a world-

Rachel LindsayHost51:58

Yeah

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Callie CurryHost51:58

... where it was poor Amanda for so long.

Rachel LindsayHost52:01

Mm-hmm.

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Callie CurryHost52:01

And she loves for people to feel sorry for her.

Rachel LindsayHost52:05

Mm-hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost52:05

Mm-hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost52:06

Mm-hmm.

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Callie CurryHost52:06

So when he asks if she was faithful and she's, she's like, "I can't believe you're asking me this." Like, "You're the cheater, not me."

Rachel LindsayHost52:14

Right.

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Callie CurryHost52:15

And because the script has flipped, she doesn't know, like, how to deal.

Rachel LindsayHost52:20

Well, I was gonna say, well, who is, whose personality is she going to latch onto now? And it is West.

Rachel LindsayHost52:27

We already see her doing it.

Rachel LindsayHost52:28

She's dressing like him.

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Callie CurryHost52:29

Mm-hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost52:29

She's doing his mannerisms, all of that.

Rachel LindsayHost52:32

But in this instance, to your point, she's kind of just gotta stand in it.

Rachel LindsayHost52:37

But it's also letting me know, which is why I think it's so frustrating, of exactly how she's going to be in part one, two, and three of this reunion.

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Callie CurryHost52:46

Mm-hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost52:46

It's constantly going to be...

Rachel LindsayHost52:48

And we've seen it.

Rachel LindsayHost52:48

We've seen it in some of the clips out.

Rachel LindsayHost52:50

You guys have, nobody on earth has ever done something like this before, and they're like, "In high school." Girl.

Rachel LindsayHost52:58

Like, no.

Rachel LindsayHost52:58

And then, you know, Sierra-

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Callie CurryHost52:59

She just got it

Rachel LindsayHost53:00

...

Rachel LindsayHost53:00

Sierra and Mia are like-

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Callie CurryHost53:01

Got it

Rachel LindsayHost53:01

... "No." So and then, you know, you see the preview where she's like, "Well, West was here for me." And then Sierra's like, "And I wasn't?" So we already know what we're getting from Amanda, and the reason I can't say anything we're getting from West is because he's been silent and sitting there like a doofus in every preview we've seen.

Rachel LindsayHost53:21

So we already know what's gonna happen there.

Rachel LindsayHost53:23

Back to, back to the OG West that we met.

Rachel LindsayHost53:26

He talked about finding his voice.

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Callie CurryHost53:28

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost53:28

Nope.

Rachel LindsayHost53:29

Gone.

Rachel LindsayHost53:30

I hope-

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Callie CurryHost53:30

He lost it

Rachel LindsayHost53:31

...

Rachel LindsayHost53:31

I hope the, maybe the little that he spoke, they're just holding it and saving it for us, but it's not looking good.

Rachel LindsayHost53:36

It's really, we're really pretty much seeing what the whole setup is gonna be here.

Rachel LindsayHost53:40

Um, other highlights, I mean, we see Danielle, we meet her boyfriend.

Rachel LindsayHost53:46

Funny enough, it is Amanda who, in the confessional, is, talks about how he has a whole wife.

Rachel LindsayHost53:52

Which, you know, glass house.

Rachel LindsayHost53:57

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost53:57

[laughs]

Rachel LindsayHost53:57

Throwing stones.

Rachel LindsayHost53:58

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost54:00

Um, which Danielle now has a baby by this man, and this man is willingly on this television show.

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Callie CurryHost54:06

I'm like, if he had a wife, he don't anymore.

Rachel LindsayHost54:09

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost54:10

That's what I'm saying.

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Callie CurryHost54:11

But I assume they're separated and, like, not together.

Rachel LindsayHost54:15

Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost54:16

And they're on the road to divorce.

Rachel LindsayHost54:17

Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost54:17

That would be my guess.

Rachel LindsayHost54:18

She's projecting o- and also trying, and in that projection, deflecting from her own situation.

Rachel LindsayHost54:24

You know what I would ask, and it's not too late, and I pray somebody from Bravo is listening, it would do wonders for the audience if you would date the confessionals.

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Callie CurryHost54:37

Hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost54:37

Just for us.

Rachel LindsayHost54:38

Wouldn't that be amazing? Because the reason I said that-

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Callie CurryHost54:41

Yeah, that'd be great

Rachel LindsayHost54:42

... is I'm thinking of how Amanda looks, and maybe we can judge it by the bangs.

Rachel LindsayHost54:46

I'm thinking about how Amanda looks in that clip that we get where she says, you know, "Danielle's man has a whole wife." If that said, like, March 31st, that would be great.

Rachel LindsayHost54:58

You know what I mean? I just wish, 'cause we know some of these things-

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Callie CurryHost55:00

It'd be good to know

Rachel LindsayHost55:01

...

Rachel LindsayHost55:01

some of these things happened after.

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Callie CurryHost55:02

It would be good to know so we could, yeah, we could measure her delusion.

Rachel LindsayHost55:06

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost55:06

That would be, it would be nice.

Rachel LindsayHost55:07

It'd be nice.

Rachel LindsayHost55:08

But maybe we just follow the bangs.

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Callie CurryHost55:11

Um, Yvonne? Yvonne?

Rachel LindsayHost55:15

Mm-hmm.

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Callie CurryHost55:15

Yvonne?

Rachel LindsayHost55:15

Mm-hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost55:16

Mm-hmm

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Callie CurryHost55:16

Mm-hmmI like her.

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Callie CurryHost55:19

I think she's gonna be really good TV.

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Callie CurryHost55:22

It's not shocking she's Lindsay's best friend.

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Callie CurryHost55:25

Um, her intro to the show was, "I'm Yvonne.

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Callie CurryHost55:30

I'm married.

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Callie CurryHost55:31

We're really happily married, and I thought we were gonna have kids right away, and then now that we're married he seems to, like, not wanna talk about it whenever I bring it up.

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Callie CurryHost55:40

And one day I got mad and went to San Diego for three days-

Rachel LindsayHost55:45

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost55:45

... and he didn't realize till the third day that I was gone."

Rachel LindsayHost55:48

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost55:49

I was like, "What?" "But we're in a really happy marriage."

Rachel LindsayHost55:56

Great TV.

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Callie CurryHost55:56

I was like, are you sure?

Rachel LindsayHost55:58

Great TV, and they're newlyweds.

Rachel LindsayHost56:01

Let's not stop there.

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Callie CurryHost56:02

Yeah, they've been together a year.

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Callie CurryHost56:03

Sorry, I forgot about that.

Rachel LindsayHost56:04

Yeah, they're newlyweds, so that- that's even more fun I feel like.

Rachel LindsayHost56:08

Um-

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Callie CurryHost56:09

How...

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Callie CurryHost56:09

Like, I asked my friend group, how long would it take for your husband to be like, "Wait, where is she?"

Rachel LindsayHost56:16

Hours.

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Callie CurryHost56:19

I w- I was gonna say, I went and got my nails done, and it was supposed to be at one time, and the lady was running late, and I ended up coming home late.

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Callie CurryHost56:26

And Seth was like, "What's happening? Where are you?"

Rachel LindsayHost56:28

Yeah, yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost56:30

Hours.

Rachel LindsayHost56:31

However-

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Callie CurryHost56:31

And he has my location.

Rachel LindsayHost56:33

However-

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Callie CurryHost56:33

And he still was like, "What is going on?" [laughs]

Rachel LindsayHost56:36

However, it depends what state your marriage is in, because there was a time that I passed out.

Rachel LindsayHost56:45

Um, I went out with girlfriends.

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Callie CurryHost56:47

Oh, the state.

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Callie CurryHost56:47

I thought you meant, I thought you meant, like, what state-

Rachel LindsayHost56:50

Oh

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Callie CurryHost56:50

...

C

Callie CurryHost56:50

in the United States.

Rachel LindsayHost56:51

Fair, because you said San Diego.

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Callie CurryHost56:52

I was like-

Rachel LindsayHost56:53

Fair

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Callie CurryHost56:53

... yeah, I was like no, bitch, if I passed out and didn't come home, that would be a huge problem.

Rachel LindsayHost56:58

Fair, fair.

Rachel LindsayHost56:59

No, I passed out.

Rachel LindsayHost57:02

Went out with friends, fell asleep on the couch.

Rachel LindsayHost57:05

Woke up, it was the next day.

Rachel LindsayHost57:08

I didn't even have a missed call.

Rachel LindsayHost57:11

So, you know.

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Callie CurryHost57:13

Was he not like, "Where were you?"

Rachel LindsayHost57:14

And we don't share loca- we didn't share location, so it's not like you could be like, "Oh, okay, she's over here at this person's house."

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Callie CurryHost57:21

But even still, I'd be like, "Are you okay?"

Rachel LindsayHost57:23

No. Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost57:24

Nothing.

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Callie CurryHost57:25

[laughs]

Rachel LindsayHost57:25

So this is what I mean about it depends the state.

Rachel LindsayHost57:27

And I remember thinking, "Huh.

Rachel LindsayHost57:29

Okay." [laughs] No, no, no.

Rachel LindsayHost57:32

Let me do it.

Rachel LindsayHost57:32

Let me do it right.

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Callie CurryHost57:33

You're probably like, "That's nice, actually."

Rachel LindsayHost57:35

Wait, wait.

Rachel LindsayHost57:35

No, no, no.

Rachel LindsayHost57:35

Wait, wait.

Rachel LindsayHost57:37

Okay.

Rachel LindsayHost57:38

[laughs] The co-

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Callie CurryHost57:39

[laughs]

Rachel LindsayHost57:41

Okay.

Rachel LindsayHost57:43

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost57:45

[laughs]

Rachel LindsayHost57:45

Gotta insert that into everyday life.

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Callie CurryHost57:47

Oh.

Rachel LindsayHost57:48

Got to.

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Callie CurryHost57:49

Yes.

Rachel LindsayHost57:50

Um, okay.

Rachel LindsayHost57:51

Lindsay and Danielle, what's new? They're in a bad place, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Rachel LindsayHost57:55

I feel like I knew Danielle gave Carl a, a hand job.

Rachel LindsayHost57:59

I think we f- I feel like we knew that.

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Callie CurryHost58:01

Yes, it was well discussed on the actual season.

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Callie CurryHost58:05

Um, and then Danielle-

Rachel LindsayHost58:07

Allegedly

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Callie CurryHost58:07

... posted on her story last night and said she did not give Carl a hand job, and then Lindsay posted on her story, "Go watch the season."

Rachel LindsayHost58:18

What, how...

Rachel LindsayHost58:19

What is Lindsay's sign? Because man, she's a grudge holder.

Rachel LindsayHost58:22

She is a grudge holder.

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Callie CurryHost58:23

I'd also like to know from Carl, did, did you get yanked or not?

Rachel LindsayHost58:28

Carl's like, "Now why am I in this? Y'all didn't, y'all didn't wanna give me a contract for In The City.

Rachel LindsayHost58:34

Like, leave me alone." That's what I would say.

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Callie CurryHost58:37

Like-

Rachel LindsayHost58:37

I would say, "Put me on season two."

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Callie CurryHost58:38

Also though, Carl should be on this show.

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Callie CurryHost58:41

It would make it even better.

Rachel LindsayHost58:43

Yeah, but you know what?

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Callie CurryHost58:43

He's probably friends with a lot of these people.

Rachel LindsayHost58:45

But it's, it's supposed to be couples.

Rachel LindsayHost58:48

It's supposed to be like The Valley.

Rachel LindsayHost58:50

So-

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Callie CurryHost58:51

Mm-hmm

Rachel LindsayHost58:51

... you know, maybe season two.

Rachel LindsayHost58:53

We'll see how it works out.

Rachel LindsayHost58:54

Um, Lexi and Andrea don't...

Rachel LindsayHost58:59

Maybe they'll give us more.

Rachel LindsayHost59:01

It looks like in the previews we see a little bit more, but, like, nothing there.

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Callie CurryHost59:05

Not much.

Rachel LindsayHost59:06

And then, of course, as I'm gonna do, you're going to see me do every recap when it comes to Whitney, Kenny, and Gavin.

Rachel LindsayHost59:14

It's gonna be the last thing I wanna talk about.

Rachel LindsayHost59:17

[laughs] And I don't wanna talk about it.

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Callie CurryHost59:18

How good of friends are you with Whitney? I know you said that you're friends.

Rachel LindsayHost59:22

I am-

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Callie CurryHost59:22

Are you really good, like-

Rachel LindsayHost59:23

I am good friends with Whitney.

Rachel LindsayHost59:25

Like, I think if she had bridesmaids, I probably wouldn't be one, 'cause she has so many good girlfriends.

Rachel LindsayHost59:29

They have, like, that really close-knit group of friends.

Rachel LindsayHost59:32

But I'm pretty close with Whitney.

Rachel LindsayHost59:36

Like, I know-

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Callie CurryHost59:37

Mm

Rachel LindsayHost59:37

... what's going on in her, in her life.

Rachel LindsayHost59:40

She knows what's going on in my life.

Rachel LindsayHost59:43

When I was going through the divorce, um, she's the reason I learned how to ski, which is, like, you know, I talk about it like I invented it.

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Callie CurryHost59:51

Mm.

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Callie CurryHost59:51

Mm-hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost59:51

So I-

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Callie CurryHost59:52

[laughs]

Rachel LindsayHost59:53

She was so just, like, there for me in so many...

Rachel LindsayHost59:56

And we've seen, we, I mean, we've been friends for 10 years now, so we've seen-

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Callie CurryHost1:00:00

Yeah

Rachel LindsayHost1:00:00

... each other go through a lot different relationships.

Rachel LindsayHost1:00:03

Um, she was one of the first people I said out loud, like, what was going on in my marriage.

Rachel LindsayHost1:00:09

She's, when I, right after the divorce is when I went to Aspen with her and another group of girlfriends, and she was just like, "I have the hotel.

Rachel LindsayHost1:00:16

Get the flight.

Rachel LindsayHost1:00:17

Come on, let's go." I got to have all the perks that she had.

Rachel LindsayHost1:00:20

It was just like, "You don't need to be alone.

Rachel LindsayHost1:00:21

You need to do your own thing." Like, she was really there for me in so many ways.

Rachel LindsayHost1:00:26

And, you know, she's one of the first people that I knew on The Bachelor, and she and I roomed together the entire time until she left.

Rachel LindsayHost1:00:33

Like, we were, we're close.

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Callie CurryHost1:00:36

Mm.

Rachel LindsayHost1:00:36

We're close.

Rachel LindsayHost1:00:37

Um-

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Callie CurryHost1:00:38

She, I assume-

Rachel LindsayHost1:00:43

Yeah

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Callie CurryHost1:00:44

... must give more in real life.

Rachel LindsayHost1:00:50

I...

Rachel LindsayHost1:00:50

Well, it's the first episode.

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Callie CurryHost1:00:54

I'm just, we're talking about the first episode.

Rachel LindsayHost1:00:56

She-

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Callie CurryHost1:00:57

She didn't give much.

Rachel LindsayHost1:00:58

Well, yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost1:00:59

Like, when, when Kenny's describing her and he's like, "She's always positive.

Rachel LindsayHost1:01:03

The way she looks at life," like, that's very true.

Rachel LindsayHost1:01:07

She's one of the nicest people, has one of the purest hearts.

Rachel LindsayHost1:01:11

I remember I used to always say I didn't think I would meet people like her on The Bachelor.

Rachel LindsayHost1:01:15

That's actually not-

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Callie CurryHost1:01:16

Yeah

Rachel LindsayHost1:01:16

... who I thought I was gonna be living in a, in a house with.

Rachel LindsayHost1:01:19

So, like, she's genuinely-... a really, really good person and just really happy.

Rachel LindsayHost1:01:25

Um, but I could see her being guarded and very aware that she is on the show.

Rachel LindsayHost1:01:33

And what I hope is that time goes on, as time goes on, she loosens up a little bit.

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Callie CurryHost1:01:39

Mm-hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost1:01:39

'Cause I think when we were on The Bachelor, she was, like, very much so about, like, being perfect as well.

Rachel LindsayHost1:01:44

And I think as time goes on, especially, like, you know, her boyfriend's on the show, his friend's on the show.

Rachel LindsayHost1:01:51

She doesn't really have friends on this show.

Rachel LindsayHost1:01:53

She's getting to know these girls.

Rachel LindsayHost1:01:55

So I think she'll loosen up.

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Callie CurryHost1:02:00

Uh, her boyfriend is loose as a goose.

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Callie CurryHost1:02:01

He's ready to go.

Rachel LindsayHost1:02:02

He's very opinionated.

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Callie CurryHost1:02:03

He's ready to be on TV.

Rachel LindsayHost1:02:03

He's very opinionated.

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Callie CurryHost1:02:05

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost1:02:05

You know what's so interesting? I never would've thought he would've been, he would've been on the show.

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Callie CurryHost1:02:11

Oh, that he would do it?

Rachel LindsayHost1:02:12

And I'm surprised.

Rachel LindsayHost1:02:13

Not only is he doing it, he's doing it.

Rachel LindsayHost1:02:15

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost1:02:16

Oh, he is doing it.

C

Callie CurryHost1:02:17

He is ready for-

Rachel LindsayHost1:02:18

He is doing it.

Rachel LindsayHost1:02:19

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost1:02:19

He is ready for the lights, baby.

Rachel LindsayHost1:02:21

He-

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Callie CurryHost1:02:21

He is ready.

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Callie CurryHost1:02:24

Would you move across the country without a ring?

Rachel LindsayHost1:02:27

Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost1:02:30

Well, would you move across the country without a ring if you've never been married before?

Rachel LindsayHost1:02:36

Uh, it depends what-

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Callie CurryHost1:02:38

'Cause you might not even wanna get married again, you know?

Rachel LindsayHost1:02:40

Correct.

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Callie CurryHost1:02:40

I feel like it's a little bit different post-marriage.

Rachel LindsayHost1:02:42

It depends what city I'm moving to.

Rachel LindsayHost1:02:46

And I sa- I said this before, I know for a fact she wanted to be in New York because me, her, and another girl-

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Callie CurryHost1:02:53

Mm

Rachel LindsayHost1:02:53

... were talking about getting an apartment together that we were all gonna split so we could be bicoastal.

Rachel LindsayHost1:02:59

And I thought, "Oh, wow, how kismet is it that you actually meet a guy that you fall in love with who lives in New York as well?" This is like, she w- we were already talk...

Rachel LindsayHost1:03:07

We were already talking about moving to New York.

Rachel LindsayHost1:03:11

So that, so I guess because I know that, I don't think that it's wild.

Rachel LindsayHost1:03:17

And it's New York.

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Callie CurryHost1:03:18

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost1:03:18

It's not like she moved to, like, you know, and shout out to these listeners, but, like, Des Moines.

Rachel LindsayHost1:03:24

[laughs]

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Callie CurryHost1:03:25

[laughs] I, um, I moved in with Seth before we were married.

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Callie CurryHost1:03:31

I mean, I had a kid before we were married, so.

Rachel LindsayHost1:03:33

Yeah.

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Callie CurryHost1:03:34

I ain't the one to judge, but, um, at that age, if my friend were doing it and I knew they really wanted to get married, which I don't know if, I don't know if this is her or not, I think I'd be like, "You're gonna make it harder."

Rachel LindsayHost1:03:53

He definitely, I mean, she definitely wants to get married.

Rachel LindsayHost1:03:57

Um, and I think she says it on the show, like, she wants to...

Rachel LindsayHost1:04:00

Her parents are high school sweethearts.

Rachel LindsayHost1:04:02

Her sister's marrying, two ki- uh, one kid, one on the way.

Rachel LindsayHost1:04:06

She wants to be married.

Rachel LindsayHost1:04:07

She wants to have kids.

Rachel LindsayHost1:04:09

I know she probably already thought, you know, I, I mean, I did too at that point, at that age, that she'd already have that.

Rachel LindsayHost1:04:16

And Kenny's older.

Rachel LindsayHost1:04:17

Kenny's in his 40s.

Rachel LindsayHost1:04:19

So I think that it's moving fast because of where they are in life.

Rachel LindsayHost1:04:23

And as he's already also said, he lost his mom, and that happened when they first started dating, and I was around for all of this.

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Callie CurryHost1:04:32

Mm.

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Callie CurryHost1:04:32

Mm-hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost1:04:32

And so what I appreciate about when he was going through that time is that he did not wanna confuse the emotion he was feeling with losing his mom and tie that into being in a, like, getting with someone.

Rachel LindsayHost1:04:49

You know, like, "I'm ti-

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Callie CurryHost1:04:50

Mm-hmm

Rachel LindsayHost1:04:50

...

Rachel LindsayHost1:04:50

I'm holding onto you because I'm losing this." Like, he wanted to be very clear-

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Callie CurryHost1:04:54

Yeah

Rachel LindsayHost1:04:54

... about separating his feelings.

Rachel LindsayHost1:04:56

That's something that I always really thought was very emotionally mature.

Rachel LindsayHost1:05:00

That's how I'm gonna say it.

Rachel LindsayHost1:05:02

We're close.

Rachel LindsayHost1:05:03

[laughs] We're close.

Rachel LindsayHost1:05:05

Uh, yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost1:05:07

That's it.

Rachel LindsayHost1:05:08

And then there's Gavin.

Rachel LindsayHost1:05:12

Nothing? You got nothing from Gavin? [laughs] You're just shaking your head.

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Callie CurryHost1:05:18

Yvonne and Kenny were the two standouts for episode one for me, of the newbies.

C

Callie CurryHost1:05:23

We got a lot of Amanda, like, her telling Yvonne to turkey baster it.

C

Callie CurryHost1:05:29

I know she like thinks that's funny, I guess.

C

Callie CurryHost1:05:32

But I'm like, "Are you capable of giving good advice?"

Rachel LindsayHost1:05:38

Who said that?

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Callie CurryHost1:05:41

Yvonne was like, "I don't know.

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Callie CurryHost1:05:43

He keeps changing his mind about when he wants to ha- like, about having a baby and, like, every time I bring it up, he changes the subject." And Amanda was like, "Isn't sperm live for 72 hours inside of you? Just turkey baster it."

Rachel LindsayHost1:05:58

I need her to-

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Callie CurryHost1:05:58

I was like, this-

Rachel LindsayHost1:05:59

Mm-mm.

C

Callie CurryHost1:05:59

What?

Rachel LindsayHost1:06:00

I need her to, to put that raincoat back on and disappear.

C

Callie CurryHost1:06:03

[laughs]

Rachel LindsayHost1:06:04

That's what I need.

Rachel LindsayHost1:06:05

That's what I need, right? That's what I need.

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Callie CurryHost1:06:06

I'm like, can y'all edit her out a little bit?

Rachel LindsayHost1:06:09

That's what I need.

Rachel LindsayHost1:06:10

I will say this, with Gavin, what I did not like is Kenny is your best friend.

Rachel LindsayHost1:06:16

Why are you talking about this like this? Why are you saying, "Oh, these are the stages of grief"? Like, I guess he was trying to be funny, but I'm like, that's also your friend, you know, who lost his brother.

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Callie CurryHost1:06:27

It was funny.

Rachel LindsayHost1:06:29

Who lost his brother.

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Callie CurryHost1:06:29

But I would've been pissed-

Rachel LindsayHost1:06:30

Yeah, like, he-

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Callie CurryHost1:06:32

...

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Callie CurryHost1:06:32

if I was, if I was Kenny

Rachel LindsayHost1:06:32

...

Rachel LindsayHost1:06:32

Kenny handled it well.

Rachel LindsayHost1:06:33

Kenny handled it well.

Rachel LindsayHost1:06:34

And I mean, maybe that's the-

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Callie CurryHost1:06:35

No, he laughed

Rachel LindsayHost1:06:35

... that's the type of friendship they have.

C

Callie CurryHost1:06:36

Everyone laughed.

Rachel LindsayHost1:06:37

But-

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Callie CurryHost1:06:37

I think also he was trying to break up the tension a little bit with Lindsay, 'cause Lindsay came in hot.

Rachel LindsayHost1:06:42

Lindsay came in hot-

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Callie CurryHost1:06:43

So-

Rachel LindsayHost1:06:43

... and said, "These are just logical questions." Lindsay came in hot-

C

Callie CurryHost1:06:47

[laughs]

Rachel LindsayHost1:06:47

... and then Kenny ca- was right back with, "I'm getting man hater vibes." Is that what he said? "I'm getting man hater vibes," or something like that about Lindsay.

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Callie CurryHost1:06:55

Yeah, and she was like, "I just don't have..." What'd she say? "I don't have-"

Rachel LindsayHost1:07:01

Annoying men-

C

Callie CurryHost1:07:02

"... patience"

Rachel LindsayHost1:07:02

... like for annoying men or something like that.

C

Callie CurryHost1:07:04

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost1:07:04

So, like, we're getting the dynamics here.

Rachel LindsayHost1:07:06

Like, you're already seeing-

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Callie CurryHost1:07:07

Yeah, I was like, okay

Rachel LindsayHost1:07:08

... what's, like, who's gonna get along with who.

Rachel LindsayHost1:07:12

So I thought that was interesting.

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Callie CurryHost1:07:13

Who's friends with who? Who's gonna rub-

Rachel LindsayHost1:07:15

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost1:07:16

Well-

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Callie CurryHost1:07:16

I, I, I knew Kenny for five seconds and knew that him and Lindsay, they might get along, but they're definitely gonna bump heads.

Rachel LindsayHost1:07:21

Kenny would never date a Lindsay.Kenny would never date a Linda.

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Callie CurryHost1:07:24

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost1:07:25

Um, well, I, that's it for In the City.

Rachel LindsayHost1:07:28

I, you know, Callie gave it a five, I gave it a seven.

Rachel LindsayHost1:07:31

I, I, I think we both enjoyed it enough to be our interest is piqued and, um, you know, we'll see, we'll see what happens.

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Callie CurryHost1:07:39

We'll definitely keep watching.

Rachel LindsayHost1:07:40

Yeah, yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost1:07:41

I, and, and I think, like, we should have some predictions of what we think is gonna happen, 'cause there's so much, you know, that we, um...

Rachel LindsayHost1:07:49

There's so much that we know is coming, and the question is, how is it gonna play out? And then even us saying, "Oh, you can tell that these are two aren't gonna get along, and maybe this might happen." We should do a little predictions.

Rachel LindsayHost1:08:02

We'll see.

Rachel LindsayHost1:08:03

Well, hmm.

Rachel LindsayHost1:08:07

Okay.

Rachel LindsayHost1:08:07

If you're feeling worked up after all of that, same.

McDonald’s Drinks (Reminder Spot)1:08:10 – 1:08:41

Rachel LindsayHost1:08:10

But then I took a sip of the new McDonald's drinks, like the strawberry watermelon refresher, or my personal fave, mango pineapple, and I was like, "Okay, maybe everything isn't falling apart, just the cast." So whether you're debriefing after a full binge with something tropical and caffeinated, or you need an emotional support soda with yummy cold foam, McDonald's has options.

Rachel LindsayHost1:08:36

Try all the new drinks now at McDonald's.

Rachel LindsayHost1:08:39

Okay, real quick before we get outta here.

The Valley – Danny Under Fire1:08:42 – 1:09:39

Rachel LindsayHost1:08:42

The Valley, it was on...

Rachel LindsayHost1:08:44

Ugh.

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Callie CurryHost1:08:47

I don't-

Rachel LindsayHost1:08:47

Your thoughts.

C

Callie CurryHost1:08:48

I, there's...

C

Callie CurryHost1:08:50

I only have one thought for that show right now.

Rachel LindsayHost1:08:53

What is it?

C

Callie CurryHost1:08:54

And it's that Danny sucks.

Rachel LindsayHost1:08:58

[laughs] He does.

C

Callie CurryHost1:09:00

Like, it was bad last episode, and this episode really just drove it on home.

C

Callie CurryHost1:09:08

But I am enjoying it more.

C

Callie CurryHost1:09:09

But he's n- not in a good place.

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:13

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:15

D- y- you, you took the words out of my mouth.

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:17

I mean, what, what more is there to say? I don't care if you put out a fucking statement.

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:21

It's, like, too late.

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Callie CurryHost1:09:23

And backed out of Watch What Happens Live.

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:24

Yeah.

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:25

Like, what...

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:28

I need to see a change, you know? I need to see a change.

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:32

But there were so many things.

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:33

There were so many things.

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:34

But you took the words out of...

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:35

Danny sucks.

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:36

Put that on a T-shirt.

C

Callie CurryHost1:09:38

[laughs]

Show Wrap-Up & Upcoming Coverage1:09:39 – 1:10:29

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:39

Um, all right.

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:40

That is it for us here on Morally Corrupt.

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:43

I hope you guys enjoyed it.

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:44

Big week next week.

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:45

Big week every week.

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:46

But next week, first off-

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Callie CurryHost1:09:48

Big week

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:49

... first off, be safe on your holiday weekend.

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:51

And when you come back from your holiday, we return to part one of the Summer House reunion.

Rachel LindsayHost1:09:58

We will be tuned in, we will be ready with our opinions, and we will be ready to recap.

Rachel LindsayHost1:10:06

Until then, guys, um, make sure you join us for our new show and then for recaps also next week.

Rachel LindsayHost1:10:12

We're not missing anything.

Rachel LindsayHost1:10:13

Not a thing.

Rachel LindsayHost1:10:14

Can't.

Rachel LindsayHost1:10:15

We have a responsibility, Callie.

Rachel LindsayHost1:10:16

To the people.

Rachel LindsayHost1:10:17

Bye, guys.

Rachel LindsayHost1:10:18

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