Money Files: Money Mindset & Personal Finance
Jul 7, 2026 · 19 min · 11 segments
If you have ever paid off your credit card balance and watched it creep right back up within a few months, you already know that paying off debt and getting out of debt are two completely different…
Keina NewellHost
You probably know some parts of my debt story, maybe not all of it, but I wanted to talk a little bit more about debt because it is I feel like it's one of the number one things that people come to me for.

It's the number one thing that I hear when I'm on consults is like people are telling me how much debt they're in.

It may be feeling like they're in debt for the first time and how did I get here? If you actually go...

I did an entire debt identity series because I think it's really important how you talk to yourself about your debt because that changes how you feel about the experience you're going to have as you pay off debt.

But one of the things that I was thinking about when I was reflecting on my own debt story is that it bumped up against my identity, if you will.

The only thoughts that I really had about my student loan debt was like, I just kind of embraced my student loan debt.

It's funny because I don't really remember the number anymore because I did pay it off.

But with my student loan debt, it just kind of accepted the fact that I was going to have student loan payments.

And not from like, oh my goodness, I'm defeated and this is going to be my life forever, but more like, So an acceptance of the debt, because it was, I'm going to at least have to pay this off for 10 years.

If that is true and it is going to be a known entity in my life, then how do I make more money? Like, I don't want to get caught up in the fact that I need to make $500, $700 payments.

So my student loan debt, I compartmentalized and I started to see it as just a payment that was always going to be there.

And even so much the fact that I was like, okay, if it's not a student loan payment, if I have kids, it's going to be something that would be for a child.

So I need to assume that I'm always going to have this like $500 to $700 payment.

If that is true, then what else do I want to be true about my finances? So it didn't rock my identity, if you will, in a way that was overwhelming or paralyzing.

You probably know some parts of my debt story, maybe not all of it, but I wanted to talk a little bit more about debt because it is I feel like it's one of the number one things that people come to me for.

It's the number one thing that I hear when I'm on consults is like people are telling me how much debt they're in.

It may be feeling like they're in debt for the first time and how did I get here? If you actually go...

I did an entire debt identity series because I think it's really important how you talk to yourself about your debt because that changes how you feel about the experience you're going to have as you pay off debt.

But one of the things that I was thinking about when I was reflecting on my own debt story is that it bumped up against my identity, if you will.

The only thoughts that I really had about my student loan debt was like, I just kind of embraced my student loan debt.

It's funny because I don't really remember the number anymore because I did pay it off.

But with my student loan debt, it just kind of accepted the fact that I was going to have student loan payments.

And not from like, oh my goodness, I'm defeated and this is going to be my life forever, but more like, So an acceptance of the debt, because it was, I'm going to at least have to pay this off for 10 years.

If that is true and it is going to be a known entity in my life, then how do I make more money? Like, I don't want to get caught up in the fact that I need to make $500, $700 payments.

So my student loan debt, I compartmentalized and I started to see it as just a payment that was always going to be there.

And even so much the fact that I was like, okay, if it's not a student loan payment, if I have kids, it's going to be something that would be for a child.

So I need to assume that I'm always going to have this like $500 to $700 payment.

If that is true, then what else do I want to be true about my finances? So it didn't rock my identity, if you will, in a way that was overwhelming or paralyzing.
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