Jul 6, 2026 · 46 min · 17 segments
**What if owning less could help you create space for more meaning?** In this episode, Kelly speaks with Joshua Becker…
Joshua BeckerGuest
Kelly FossHost
As someone who's followed you very closely over the past eight years since I adopted this lifestyle, I'm personally curious how your definition of minimalism has evolved.

I stumbled upon my definition of minimalism pretty early on when I was writing like 15, 16.

Minimalism is the intentional promotion of the things we most value by removing anything that distracts us from it.

So Yeah, I suppose I was learning a lot at the very beginning and seeing how minimalism applied in different areas and how it looks different for different people.

I mean, for me personally, I mean, when I started adopting this lifestyle, it was really just about the stuff.

And then once I got rid of all the stuff, I was basically what I like to say, sitting alone in an empty apartment.

And over time, because of that, I'm able to hear myself more clearly, which is actually a good thing.

I think a lot of the time, and even at, I was just at my brother's wedding, a lot of people ask me about what I do.

But for me, I'm most passionate about the inner stuff, the inner clutter, all of that stuff that is, you know, it's constantly coming in and out.

As someone who's followed you very closely over the past eight years since I adopted this lifestyle, I'm personally curious how your definition of minimalism has evolved.

I stumbled upon my definition of minimalism pretty early on when I was writing like 15, 16.

Minimalism is the intentional promotion of the things we most value by removing anything that distracts us from it.

So Yeah, I suppose I was learning a lot at the very beginning and seeing how minimalism applied in different areas and how it looks different for different people.

I mean, for me personally, I mean, when I started adopting this lifestyle, it was really just about the stuff.

And then once I got rid of all the stuff, I was basically what I like to say, sitting alone in an empty apartment.

And over time, because of that, I'm able to hear myself more clearly, which is actually a good thing.

I think a lot of the time, and even at, I was just at my brother's wedding, a lot of people ask me about what I do.

But for me, I'm most passionate about the inner stuff, the inner clutter, all of that stuff that is, you know, it's constantly coming in and out.
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