BONUS: The cabin at the end of a quarter-life crisis with Patrick Hutchison

I want you to take us all with you to the cabin the very first time you went.

Like, what did you see? What did you smell? What did you hear in this place that you wanted to call your own?

It was terrible.

You know, it didn't have siding.

There was no deck.

The driveway was a swamp.

Inside was full of spiders and mouse droppings and clear water damage, although I didn't know it was clear water damage.

It's like wood is so many cool shades of dark brown and swirly.

Oh, wow.

But all I could see, I think, is kind of like that reality that I just read about.

That was the image, I think, that I had.

And I think, as I talk about in the book, it was also at a time in my life that I was just kind of like, needing something else, something maybe kind of weird or unique or kind of independent, something that was kind of mine, I guess.

And not just the physical ownership of like having property being mine, but I think also like, oh, this is an experience, like having this thing, having this place to go to and maybe working on it.

That's an experience that like no one I know is having or doing.

And so I think that I was sort of desirous of like that.

It's like owning that as a sort of like maybe identity in a way.

I'm not really sure.

I'm getting a little too therapy on this.

No, no.

We're going to get so therapeutic later and we're going to talk exactly about that.

But I mean, especially for like the millennial generation, right? Like.

the idea of property ownership feels really out of pocket at this point, especially when you're just starting out.

And so when you see a cabin for $7,500, it can seem really tempting.

I couldn't decide if it was a bargain, a robbery, or just a giant red flag.

I was just like, that could mean a lot of things.