Maxwell Leadership Executive Podcast
Jul 9, 2026 · 27 min · 13 segments
Get the learning guide from today's episode here! In this episode, Chris Goede and Perry Holley explore what it takes to design a…
I don't know if it's possible or not, but man, could you imagine when you think about the engagement levels, when you think about the, the turnover percentages, if we could figure this out and people genuinely did not want to leave, um, not because the market's bad, not because they feel trapped and there's nowhere else to go, um, but man, they actually wanted to stay and be a part of, of what we're doing.
And, it, it... people always talk about retaining talent, and, you know, retention sometimes can come from fear.
It's kinda built on trust, I think, at that point, and do I have a kinda culture that does that? A lot of times, people, the culture's gotten mixed up with perks and, you know-
this really is about what human, every human needs at work, and they're trying to...
What do they feel like when they come here, and how, how much do they enjoy it? So I'm thinking things like, we talk about safety, psychological safety, about meaning, um, growing.
I don't know if it's possible or not, but man, could you imagine when you think about the engagement levels, when you think about the, the turnover percentages, if we could figure this out and people genuinely did not want to leave, um, not because the market's bad, not because they feel trapped and there's nowhere else to go, um, but man, they actually wanted to stay and be a part of, of what we're doing.
And, it, it... people always talk about retaining talent, and, you know, retention sometimes can come from fear.
It's kinda built on trust, I think, at that point, and do I have a kinda culture that does that? A lot of times, people, the culture's gotten mixed up with perks and, you know-
this really is about what human, every human needs at work, and they're trying to...
What do they feel like when they come here, and how, how much do they enjoy it? So I'm thinking things like, we talk about safety, psychological safety, about meaning, um, growing.
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