Maxwell Leadership Executive Podcast
Jun 18, 2026 · 28 min · 11 segments
Get the learning guide from today's episode here! In this episode, Chris Goede and Perry Holly explore the challenge of managing cognitive overload in today's workplace. They talk about the…
Uh, now this came about with talking to a coaching client, uh, actually out-outside the US, um, but he was very frustrated with the fact that his, uh, he was recruiting new talent, and he was very impressed with the talent.
Uh, they're young people, uh, but they were eager, enege-energetic, smart, um, and willing.
Uh, they were experiencing some early success, and, uh, he was really excited about the quick start they had in their, in the business they were in, and they resigned.
And he said, "W-why, why are you resigning? You're just, you're just hitting, hitting your stride, and you're, th-th-you're gonna get better.
It's gonna, you're gonna do more." And they said that the, the kind of the essence of there's too much homework is that I think about this twenty-four hours a day.
And one of them had a, uh, a family member that worked in roofing, and he said, "I watched my father go to his roofing job, and when he comes home at night, he doesn't think about roofing-
... until tomorrow." And he goes, "I don't wanna think about this all the time." And I, it really resonated with me because, and I think, I thought you would as well, that we think about this all the time.
That's what I really wanna talk about is as a leader, are there things we can do to help establish boundaries, put in guardrails, uh, uh, teach and train? Because this is intellectual work we're doing, your, your mind doesn't shut off from it.
But can you, um, train yourself? Can you, can you build a, a system, I guess, to help you do that? That's, that's where we're-
So guardrails, you know, uh, Sarah, my wife, uh, is a registered nurse and has been for a long time, and that's one thing we've talked about periodically is the same thing with the roof, for example, right? She can go to work and then comes home, and it's, it's, it's off.
You and I, it's a little bit different, and I'm sure a lot of people that are listening, uh, even if you're in a trade like that, uh, it's different.
... cognitive load that is on us that we're thinking about, um, impacts us physically.
And I think now, and I think this reason this is coming up too, is that, um, man, the younger workers are talking about balance.
They're talking about, "Man, how do I have, you know, a, a, a job or, or career, and then how do I have another part of my life?" And so they never feel fully off, and we're hearing that feedback.
Uh, now this came about with talking to a coaching client, uh, actually out-outside the US, um, but he was very frustrated with the fact that his, uh, he was recruiting new talent, and he was very impressed with the talent.
Uh, they're young people, uh, but they were eager, enege-energetic, smart, um, and willing.
Uh, they were experiencing some early success, and, uh, he was really excited about the quick start they had in their, in the business they were in, and they resigned.
And he said, "W-why, why are you resigning? You're just, you're just hitting, hitting your stride, and you're, th-th-you're gonna get better.
It's gonna, you're gonna do more." And they said that the, the kind of the essence of there's too much homework is that I think about this twenty-four hours a day.
And one of them had a, uh, a family member that worked in roofing, and he said, "I watched my father go to his roofing job, and when he comes home at night, he doesn't think about roofing-
... until tomorrow." And he goes, "I don't wanna think about this all the time." And I, it really resonated with me because, and I think, I thought you would as well, that we think about this all the time.
That's what I really wanna talk about is as a leader, are there things we can do to help establish boundaries, put in guardrails, uh, uh, teach and train? Because this is intellectual work we're doing, your, your mind doesn't shut off from it.
But can you, um, train yourself? Can you, can you build a, a system, I guess, to help you do that? That's, that's where we're-
So guardrails, you know, uh, Sarah, my wife, uh, is a registered nurse and has been for a long time, and that's one thing we've talked about periodically is the same thing with the roof, for example, right? She can go to work and then comes home, and it's, it's, it's off.
You and I, it's a little bit different, and I'm sure a lot of people that are listening, uh, even if you're in a trade like that, uh, it's different.
... cognitive load that is on us that we're thinking about, um, impacts us physically.
And I think now, and I think this reason this is coming up too, is that, um, man, the younger workers are talking about balance.
They're talking about, "Man, how do I have, you know, a, a, a job or, or career, and then how do I have another part of my life?" And so they never feel fully off, and we're hearing that feedback.
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