Sep 1, 2026 · 41 min · 12 segments
Send us Fan Mail A song can be a product, or it can be a place you go to tell the truth. We head off campus into Hudson Valley songwriter Michelle…
Michelle GedneyGuestScott HallHost
And so fast forward to all the years later, I start working with my friend Dora Williams at her retreat.

But I realized, you know, that the same kind of like outreach and dynamic that I had with Rick in like coming together over songs I wanted to employ at the retreat.

But I just remember introducing myself to the group with a song and then people started kind of pulling me into like little rooms off of hallways.

That was my favorite thing to do was to like hear somebody's song and be able to kind of immediately pull out a few things that I thought could make it better.

But it's not only like my input as a facilitator, but then when we get into a small workshop, situation, all of the other people in that workshop are also contributing to that kind of collaborative atmosphere.

So, you know, everybody is listening really closely and we all hear different things.

And so fast forward to all the years later, I start working with my friend Dora Williams at her retreat.

But I realized, you know, that the same kind of like outreach and dynamic that I had with Rick in like coming together over songs I wanted to employ at the retreat.

But I just remember introducing myself to the group with a song and then people started kind of pulling me into like little rooms off of hallways.

That was my favorite thing to do was to like hear somebody's song and be able to kind of immediately pull out a few things that I thought could make it better.

But it's not only like my input as a facilitator, but then when we get into a small workshop, situation, all of the other people in that workshop are also contributing to that kind of collaborative atmosphere.

So, you know, everybody is listening really closely and we all hear different things.
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