Sep 26, 2026 · 51 min · 12 segments
In this episode we are talking about what it means to work from the home, to work alongside domestic life and how that worked for women makers in the past. We both share our very different experiences…
Ruth SingerHost
Deborah McGuireGuest
trolls actually you know it's a kind of like weird moral judgment that being untidy or being messy or being having creative mess is somehow bad and actually doesn't do anybody else any harm you know it's not actually doing anybody any harm if a home is messy but it's interesting thinking about that you know because I was thinking about I didn't grow up in a sewing household which so I am a bit of an anomaly that I didn't grow up you know most textile artists have kind of that kind of background and sewing around and I didn't um and I sort of got drawn into it anyway because it's clearly somewhere deep in my um in my soul that I have to do sewing you know I don't really I'm fascinated by quite how that works.

But I was around creativity and certainly plenty of messiness and, you know, stuff being made and stuff happening and people exploring things that they love to do.

But that's still that, you know, having that passion, that creativity, that exploration of things that you love... that is not work and is not, you know, it's non-functional.

It is purely for creative expression and joy and, you know, and collaborating and being with other people.

And that's what makes, I think that's what creates creative people is having that kind of creative energy around.

And if you're growing up without that, I think must be, you know, is a real challenge.

Whereas, you know, in previous generations, somebody that would you know almost everybody would grown up with somebody sewing somebody doing something creative or doing um a manual job you know doing artisan work of having that kind of that being a normal part of life and that is what has changed so rapidly in 100 years or so, that counts, you know.

So even when I was a child, my parents had friends who were artists, art lecturers.

And she did very tiny, what I remember is very tiny piecing to make pictorial quilts.

trolls actually you know it's a kind of like weird moral judgment that being untidy or being messy or being having creative mess is somehow bad and actually doesn't do anybody else any harm you know it's not actually doing anybody any harm if a home is messy but it's interesting thinking about that you know because I was thinking about I didn't grow up in a sewing household which so I am a bit of an anomaly that I didn't grow up you know most textile artists have kind of that kind of background and sewing around and I didn't um and I sort of got drawn into it anyway because it's clearly somewhere deep in my um in my soul that I have to do sewing you know I don't really I'm fascinated by quite how that works.

But I was around creativity and certainly plenty of messiness and, you know, stuff being made and stuff happening and people exploring things that they love to do.

But that's still that, you know, having that passion, that creativity, that exploration of things that you love... that is not work and is not, you know, it's non-functional.

It is purely for creative expression and joy and, you know, and collaborating and being with other people.

And that's what makes, I think that's what creates creative people is having that kind of creative energy around.

And if you're growing up without that, I think must be, you know, is a real challenge.

Whereas, you know, in previous generations, somebody that would you know almost everybody would grown up with somebody sewing somebody doing something creative or doing um a manual job you know doing artisan work of having that kind of that being a normal part of life and that is what has changed so rapidly in 100 years or so, that counts, you know.

So even when I was a child, my parents had friends who were artists, art lecturers.

And she did very tiny, what I remember is very tiny piecing to make pictorial quilts.
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