Lucentlands Podcast | Harvesting Agriculture Knowledge
Sep 22, 2026 · 34 min · 12 segments
At the 2026 CRI Citrus Research Symposium, Dewald Kirsten and Louise Brodie spoke with Debbie Matteucci, CEO of the South African Bioproducts Organization (SABO), about the growing role of biological…
Debbie MatteucciGuest
Louise BrodieHost
Dewald KirstenHostWow.

And you know what? You mentioned earlier that over the last two years, it's grown considerably.

say that is? I think previously we focused very much on the regulatory aspects of biological products.

So it was... well known that it was hard to regulate these types of products.

They're not synthetic chemicals and our regulatory pathways are built around synthetic chemicals.

And so there was a very large focus towards establishing guidelines that could facilitate the registration.

But with the new board, we realized that is not the only barrier to adoption.

So we have pressure coming from the consumers saying, They want our growers to farm more sustainably, to use less synthetic pesticides, et cetera, especially those that are hazardous.

So with that pressure from the consumers, and obviously it's a researcher's dream looking at all these different mechanisms, so you get a lot of innovation and research coming out of that side, but somehow it's falling apart in the middle.

And one of the biggest barriers for adoption we found was that educational aspect.

And so we moved away, well, not away, but we expanded our view into looking at the full value chain and how we can facilitate the adoption across the full value chain.

the different aspects in the value chain and how we can get those to work together to assist the adoption and transition into a slightly different way of farming.

But okay, I think I have some idea of this, but I'm asking the questions to allow you to discuss that because we've just been sitting in sessions where...
Wow.

And you know what? You mentioned earlier that over the last two years, it's grown considerably.

say that is? I think previously we focused very much on the regulatory aspects of biological products.

So it was... well known that it was hard to regulate these types of products.

They're not synthetic chemicals and our regulatory pathways are built around synthetic chemicals.

And so there was a very large focus towards establishing guidelines that could facilitate the registration.

But with the new board, we realized that is not the only barrier to adoption.

So we have pressure coming from the consumers saying, They want our growers to farm more sustainably, to use less synthetic pesticides, et cetera, especially those that are hazardous.

So with that pressure from the consumers, and obviously it's a researcher's dream looking at all these different mechanisms, so you get a lot of innovation and research coming out of that side, but somehow it's falling apart in the middle.

And one of the biggest barriers for adoption we found was that educational aspect.

And so we moved away, well, not away, but we expanded our view into looking at the full value chain and how we can facilitate the adoption across the full value chain.

the different aspects in the value chain and how we can get those to work together to assist the adoption and transition into a slightly different way of farming.

But okay, I think I have some idea of this, but I'm asking the questions to allow you to discuss that because we've just been sitting in sessions where...
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