**Who are you underneath everything you were taught you were supposed to be?**
That's the question at the heart of this week's *Life Beyond B.S.*
I'm joined by mindset coach, entrepreneur, mom of four, and fellow soon-to-be anthology author **Natica Sampson** for a very real conversation about identity, self-trust, healing, personal responsibility, spirituality, abundance - and what Natica calls **the messy middle**.
Natica shares pieces of a life that included an abusive childhood, homelessness, addiction, group homes, and learning to survive long before she had the tools to understand what she was surviving. But this conversation isn't about staying in the past.
It's about what happens when you finally begin asking yourself the hard questions.
**What do I actually want?**
**What do I believe?**
**Does this still serve me?**
**Who am I when I'm no longer living according to everyone else's expectations?**
We talk about the identities and belief systems we pick up in childhood, how relationships can change when *you* change, learning to set boundaries with people you still love, and the difference between taking responsibility for your life and blaming yourself for what happened to you.
Natica also opens up about rebuilding her confidence and relationship with her body, motherhood, entrepreneurship, spirituality, and why she defines **true abundance** very differently from simply having money or material things. For her, abundance is love, joy, peace, experiences, connection—and creating a life that feels full from the inside out.
And we talk about something I think more people need permission to admit:
**Growth can still be messy.**
You can do the work and still struggle.
You can love your life and still have hard days.
You can become more aligned and still question yourself.
You can be healing and still be human.
Natica describes that space as the **messy middle -** and maybe the goal isn't to escape it as quickly as possible. Maybe it's learning who you are while you're in it.
Because ultimately, living your life beyond B.S. isn't about becoming perfect.
It's about having the freedom to breathe, trust yourself, make conscious choices, and create a life that actually feels like yours.
🎙️ **In this episode, we talk about:**
- Identity and the belief systems we inherit
- Moving beyond survival mode
- Addiction, recovery and self-awareness
- Self-worth and the voice that asks, “Who the hell are you?”
- Outgrowing relationships and finding aligned community
- Boundaries without guilt
- Personal responsibility vs. self-blame
- Building confidence through self-love
- The messy middle of personal growth
- Spirituality, religion, energy and curiosity
- What true abundance actually means
- Motherhood as a catalyst for growth
- Entrepreneurship and trusting yourself
- Becoming the person you actually want to be
✨ Connect with Natica using the links below.
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/share/18JFAy5ZEH/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/naticasampson?stkn=MTVhN2sxdG5wcXVheA==
TikTok: tiktok.com/@naticasampson
✨ Learn more about Heather, coaching, the podcast and upcoming offerings at **HeatherMcNally.com**
If this conversation spoke to you, share it with someone who may be in their own messy middle—and remind them that they don't have to have everything figured out to keep becoming who they are.