Oct 13, 2026 · 26 min · 12 segments
What if getting involved in the surety industry could open doors to new friendships, mentors, career opportunities — and even a chance to bond over a few brews? In this episode, hosts Kat Shamapande…
Kat ShamapandeHost
Mark McCallumHostAnd, and, you know, moving into the, like, why I got more involved, again, like I, I didn't, I certainly didn't know at the start of my surety career...
I mean, Stefan, I mean, not to age shame you on here, but how old are you? [laughs]
So I turn, I turn 36 next month, so yeah, I would say I'm, I'm definitely in the younger generation of people in surety probably.
A, a lot of the people I know are, are significantly older and much more experienced, and just generally better at most of the things.
The joke I had with my mentor when I was in my first role is like, "The, the mistake I wa- made was going into engineering.
And, and, you know, moving into the, like, why I got more involved, again, like I, I didn't, I certainly didn't know at the start of my surety career...
I mean, Stefan, I mean, not to age shame you on here, but how old are you? [laughs]
So I turn, I turn 36 next month, so yeah, I would say I'm, I'm definitely in the younger generation of people in surety probably.
A, a lot of the people I know are, are significantly older and much more experienced, and just generally better at most of the things.
The joke I had with my mentor when I was in my first role is like, "The, the mistake I wa- made was going into engineering.
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