Aug 9, 2026 · 1 hr 13 min · 9 segments
What happens when someone—or something—you support does something that conflicts with your values? In this episode, Tyler (AKA Alan Sphincter) joins me for a conversation that begins with political…
Heather WarrenHost
Well, so I want to – the reason that we're talking about this is kind of what do you do when something that is representative of something that you stand for is supporting it is no longer ethical? That's kind of – I think that's sort of the theme here because – There are folks on, you know, both sides of the aisle, I suppose, who have done some fucked up shit.
And, but I think, I think because the world is so divisive, we don't want to, we don't want to okay words are hard but like we want to defend our side
yeah
right
kind of thing and i think i don't know it just feels like we want what i want is for people who voted for donald trump to say our guys saying and doing some fucked up shit has done some fucked up shit and it's not okay
yeah
Like we cannot have this person represent us because they've done things that are, ethically contrary to what we stand for.
It's, uh, as Taylor Swift would say, you know, I keep my side of the street clean.
Oh my God.
Black Dog?
Oh.
Oh.
Anyway, um, the Democratic Party has at times been really bad about, um, You know, looking the other way or playing the whataboutism game.
But we, and I say we because I'm a card carrying member of the Democratic Party and a donor.
and a lifelong progressive, we have been better about smacking down those men, and it's almost always men, almost always white men, who have allegations, many of the times credible, of malfeasance of some kind or another.
Well, so I want to – the reason that we're talking about this is kind of what do you do when something that is representative of something that you stand for is supporting it is no longer ethical? That's kind of – I think that's sort of the theme here because – There are folks on, you know, both sides of the aisle, I suppose, who have done some fucked up shit.
And, but I think, I think because the world is so divisive, we don't want to, we don't want to okay words are hard but like we want to defend our side
yeah
right
kind of thing and i think i don't know it just feels like we want what i want is for people who voted for donald trump to say our guys saying and doing some fucked up shit has done some fucked up shit and it's not okay
yeah
Like we cannot have this person represent us because they've done things that are, ethically contrary to what we stand for.
It's, uh, as Taylor Swift would say, you know, I keep my side of the street clean.
Oh my God.
Black Dog?
Oh.
Oh.
Anyway, um, the Democratic Party has at times been really bad about, um, You know, looking the other way or playing the whataboutism game.
But we, and I say we because I'm a card carrying member of the Democratic Party and a donor.
and a lifelong progressive, we have been better about smacking down those men, and it's almost always men, almost always white men, who have allegations, many of the times credible, of malfeasance of some kind or another.
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